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Baratza Virtuoso Burr Espresso Grinder V2

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Quick Overview

The Baratza Virtuoso Burr Espresso Grinder with Preciso Burrs comes with several features to make your grinding experience even better. Its new calibration system virtually eliminates grind variation and ensures identical performance from each grinder. The Virtuoso ring burr is supported on three points, providing a stable platform for a more accurate grind.
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The Baratza Virtuoso Burr Espresso Grinder with Preciso Burrs comes with several features to make your grinding experience even better. Its new calibration system virtually eliminates grind variation and ensures identical performance from each grinder. The Virtuoso ring burr is supported on three points, providing a stable platform for a more accurate grind.

Features & Functionality of the Baratza Virtuoso Grinder

  • Complete Control: With more than 40 individual settings, the Virtuoso will enable you to dial into your specific grind.
  • Timer: The front-mounted pulse button makes it easy to grind directly into an espresso brew basket.
  • Push Some Buttons: With both a pulse button and timer, it is easier to keep consistent quantity for multiple grinds.
  • Commercial-Quality Burrs: The Virtuoso's burrs are comparable with the highest quality commercial burrs.
  • Less Static: The Virtuoso boasts an enhanced anti-static design, which minimizes messy coffee dust.
  • European-Crafted Burrs: The Virtuoso conical burrs ensure consistency every time you grind.
  • Earth-Friendly Packaging: Packaged in 100% recyclable materials.
  • Large Hopper: With an 8-ounce hopper and a five-ounce ground bin, make plenty of coffee with one flip of the switch.
  • Attractive Top Casting: Primarily an aesthetic attribute, the additional weight of the top casting increases the stability of the grinder. It also provides further sound and vibration isolation for a quieter, smoother-running coffee grinder.
  • Pros
    • Range and Accuracy - The Virtuoso has 40 distinct settings of grind — from espresso to French press.
    • Consistency - The 40mm commercial-grade hardened steel conical burrs produce a consistent grind, which is crucial for perfecting your espresso or brewed coffee extraction.
    • Less Noise - A high-efficiency motor is powerful and spins slowly, resulting in cool and quiet operation.
    Cons
    • Gets Warm - While the timer feature is nice, if it is left running for the full minute, the machine heats up, causing your grind to come out a bit warmer than usual.
    • Can Be Messy - Some customers have indicated that the excess grinds get all over their countertops and the exterior of this unit.
    Ease of Care and Maintenance 5
    Ease of Use 5
    Overall Value for the Money 5
    How Does it Compare?

    The Virtuoso grinds from 200 to 1400 microns. It is a good all around grinder choice for drip or espresso.

    Tips and Tricks

    This grinder is compatible with the Baratza Esatto accessory for weight based grinds. Compatible with the bean hopper extension for additional capacity.

    Suitable Applications Coffee Press, Drip Coffee, Espresso, Fine Drip / Pour Over
    Minimum Time to Grind Double Shot 12 seconds | 1.5 to 2.4 g/sec
    Minimum Time to Grind 8 Cup Drip 1 minute
    Model Number Virtuoso/Preciso
    Manufacturer Baratza
    Width 5.0 inches
    Depth 6.0 inches
    Height 13.0 inches with hopper | 9.5 inches without hopper
    Product Weight (lbs.) 8.0000
    Watts 1600W
    Volts 110V
    RPM of Burrs 450 RPM
    Programmability No
    Case Material Plastic
    NSF Certified No
    Bean Hopper Capacity 8 oz
    Dosing Options Timer - up to 60 sec
    Adjustment Configuration Stepped - Macro and Micro Settings
    Grinder Style Burr - Conical Steel
    Burr Diameter 40mm
    Anti-Static Coating Yes
    Timer or On/Off Switch Both Timer & On/Off Switch
    Material Plastic

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    Baratza Virtuoso Burr Espresso Grinder V2
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    A shopper asked: I picked up a two year old Virtuoso on eBay today and had it shipped to my daughter. It's probably the older non-Preciso version. She's going to use it with a Chemex pour-over (that I just purchased online today from SCG). Any idea what setting would be optimal? Secondly, can I retrofit mine with the Preciso burrs? Probably should have just bought the new one here...too late now. Nov 16, 2013
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    Richard W: Don't think you'll really need the fine control of Preciso for Pour Over grinding. I land at about 21-22 for Siphon which is similar grind to drip and pour over. For French Press, I go to 32. For moka pot (stovetop "espresso) I use 10-11.

    Preciso more for nailing down the finest grinds for Espresso in the 1-10 range.

    Its a great grinder. Yes, I think the burrs were changed recently for better consistency, but minor improvement.
    Nov 17, 2013
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    james r: I would suggest a medium coarse about 18 to 22. I use this with a french press and a vietameese phin. Also about 18 gm of ground coffee per 10 oz of
    Cold filter water. A nice accessory is the escali portable scale. Inexpensi be and very accurate

    Sorry I cannot help with the burr, though I don't think it should matter, the virtuoso mainley adds more settings
    Nov 17, 2013
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    Kyle D: It truly is trial and error. As you know the top rotates to adjust the grind but in addition, you can calibrate it by taking the lid off (see Baratza web site for instructions). I should suggest putting it to 9, making a shot, the adjust. Since there is two place that can be adjusted, there is not a correct setting. Nov 17, 2013
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    Bill L: Hi! I bought my Baratza Burr Espresso Grinder, V2, about a year ago and have literally used it every day! I make mostly espresso with mine, but we also have a Chemex and LOVE how the two of them dance together!! I set mine on "8" for the Chemex and "4" for my La Pavoni Professional.

    Enjoy!!!!
    Nov 16, 2013
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    Jon R: I can't say how a used grinder with non-Preciso burrs will compare, but I use mine (with Preciso burrs) daily for pour over on a setting of 14-15 depending on the coffee. I would say in my grinder that setting would be considered a fine drip grind... but that's on my machine. Nov 18, 2013
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    Connee E: Hi! With a Chemex, we would start around a 20 and adjust from there based on her coffee preferred strength. We are espresso drinkers, so ours is set around 8 to 10 depending on beans. Hope this helps!

    Happy coffee!
    Nov 16, 2013
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    Michael B: I zeroed in on 22 and have been happy with it. I'd start at 20 and work my way finer until I found what I likes personally. Nov 16, 2013
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    Edward P: I like my coffee rather robust and I use the "8" setting for the Chemex. I have no idea as to retrofitting the burrs. Nov 17, 2013
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    A shopper asked: What grind setting do you recommend for espresso using a Rancilio Silva ? Dec 5, 2013
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    Lydia P: Although I do not use a Rancilio Silva machine for espresso and most of my grind is for drip and pour-over (Chemex), I've found that different beans/roasts grind differently at the same setting. For this type of coffee, I go between 17 and 25. This "phenomenon", if you will, is mentioned in the instruction booklet too. I would suggest starting at grind 1 where the hopper is turned all the way clockwise and go from there. In my opinion, once you get up towards grind 8 or so is when the grind starts to become too course for espresso. The beauty about this grinder is that you can make very incremental adjustments in the grind setting to really 'dial it in." Hope this helps! Dec 6, 2013
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    David G: I love the 40 different settings for the Baratza Grinder because of the flexibility to make expresso, drip and french pressed coffee.
    All that said I have only used the setting of 16 for my drip coffee since I purchased the Baratza. I have not experimented with expresso ground coffee settings yet.
    Dec 6, 2013
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    Art S: I did not want to be rude and not reply. I only grind for brewed coffee. However, I can't imagine a better coffee grinder. The beans have been ground with the same consistency every day for a year. The flavor is never tastes like aspirin. Dec 6, 2013
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    Donna V: I have a Baratza Virtuoso burr grinder V2, which looks like yours, but I don't think it's a Rancilio Silva. Anyhow, I use between 8 and 10 for espresso. For regular coffees, I use 18-20, depending on the roast. Dec 6, 2013
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    jennifer f: I have mine set on the last two or three clicks depending on the texture of the beans. Some beans grind differently, e.g. oily ones. I am quite happy with it so far. Dec 13, 2013
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    Albert D: I have been using setting #3 consistently for the espresso grinding.
    I have also found that grinding the beans immediately prior to use is highly beneficial.
    Dec 6, 2013
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    JAMES G: I don't know as I have not yet ground to espresso grind. I would guess about a 5, and I think I remember that grind settings are mentioned in the manual. Dec 6, 2013
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    Faith asked: I received my Virtuoso yesterday and I have some questions. I use Aeropress and French press, so I wanted a grinder that could easily be adapted to different grinds. The Aeropress grind was excellent (I like it on the fine side), 10-12 as I'm playing with settings. I tried '28' for the french press (as recommended by Baratza) and I was very displeased - boulders and fines - not an even grind at all. Any suggestions?

    Troubleshooting at Baratza only refers to whether you want the grind finer or coarser, not a solution to uneven grind.

    I have some other issues with design, static - but if I can get the grinder to grind evenly on a medium/coarse grind I'll put up with the other issues (although I believe they should be addressed).

    I'd appreciate any input. Thanks.
    Nov 12, 2013
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    David J: 90% of the time we grind for espresso, but we grind for French press on occaision. I haven't got the grinder in front of me, but if 0 is finest and 100 is coarsest, I would set it at 60 for French press. I have noticed that the mean whole bean size seems to be smaller than it used to be, which would be a possible cause of uneven grind at the coarsest setting. Can't help with the static, but do keep an eye on the timer handle which can and will fall off. I had to fish it out of the garbage once after tapping out stale grounds. Otherwise, for the price, this is a really good grinder.

    Regards
    David
    Nov 12, 2013
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    Richard L: It has been a "voyage of discovery" for me as well. Static issues are very annoying and require a lot of newspaper under the grinder when processing. Experimenting with grind settings is the only way to optimize, but you will never get some of the grinds as good as in the store I am afraid. I would rather buy bulk beans and grind myself so it is a toss up.

    Good Luck!
    Nov 12, 2013
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    Faith: I was really shocked at how bad the static was, considering that my old Capresso had no such issues. The bin is not as bad as the entire plastic casing. I also wasn't happy with the design - the open seam underneath the grinds bin which fills up with all those static-y grinds. That is a terrible design flaw, in my opinion.

    Maybe my expectations were too high for this grinder, but all other grinders from this level up are really for espresso and not for my needs. I will, of course, continue to work with it to solve my issues. Nov 12, 2013
    Richard L: I believe that both of us had high expectations based upon the item description and are now dealing with the reality that it is delivering less than promised results. Frustrating for sure. Nov 12, 2013
    Faith: This grinder was recommended to me for my particular purpose by absolutely everybody and I researched for a good month. I looked at serious coffee blogs, suppliers, etc. and this was THE unit to purchase if you weren't looking to be a home espresso afficionado.

    I used very fresh beans this morning - an espresso blend from a small batch roaster that I received yesterday. The beans I used initially were not ancient, but a few weeks old nevertheless. They were a light/dark blend so the amount of oils should have been relatively the same. I made a few discoveries that might help you:

    After grinding, don't remove the grinds bin for several minutes. A lot of the static dissipates. After removing the grounds, I put the bin back, tapped the unit on the back to get a lot of the remaining chaff/grounds into the bin and not all over the countertop. When I cleaned the chute after that, there was very little residue.

    I don't know of this makes a difference, but here is an observation: I was weighing my beans and grinding that amount only. This morning, I put more beans in the hopper and relied on the timer (much experimentation needed there) for the amount of coffee I needed. I don't know if this made a difference in how much chaff/static was generated or not. I've instituted a whole lot of variables, I know.

    I adjusted the grind while the unit was running WITH beans. I did this a couple of times and after that, my coarser grind was much more even. I think I tried to adjust the grinder without grinding when I used the unit the first time, and that may have thrown things off and things now appear to be better situated.

    That being said, the seam underneath the grinds bin is just an awful design flaw - it will fill up with grounds and need regular cleaning. And even though the directions online are comprehensive, there are a lot of steps in taking it apart to clean. That just shouldn't be necessary. Nov 13, 2013
    Richard L: You clearly did more due diligence than I did. Sorry that we both have reached similar conclusions; this model leaves a lot to be desired from both an engineering and operational perspective. I have noted your tip on letting that static discharge after grinding. We have two different use cases it seems. You grind to meet your daily needs and I grind in bulk for the week ahead. Regardless of this we are both left frustrated and with a mess to clean up. Not what either of us was expecting. GOOD HUNTING! Nov 14, 2013
    Robert D: Hello Faith D,

    I use my Virtuoso for espresso and French Press. The latter I have set at 26 and have not had the kind of trouble you describe. Are your beans fresh? Also, has the temperature and humidity changed where you live, as this can affect the grind of your beans?

    Wishing you success and many enjoyable cups...

    Rob
    Nov 12, 2013
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    Faith: I will try again with the extremely fresh beans I just got from a local small batch roaster rather than the slightly older beans that I used today (although I keep them in containers that I have high confidence in). I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks. Nov 12, 2013
    Robert D: You're most welcome, Faith. Let me know how it comes out. Nov 12, 2013
    John D: My experience with my virtuoso is that I have to go with a much finer grind them most recommendations. I continued to go finer on my espresso until I achieved the desired result Was achieved. Nov 12, 2013
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    Don A: I've also had uneven grind when going more coarse. Fortunately I use it for drip, and it's never been enough of an issue. Nov 12, 2013
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    craig f: don't have any specific input but you can always take down the burrs and clean and recalibrate as a start Nov 12, 2013
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    A shopper asked: I have a Solis Meastro Plus and the beans do not fall into the grinder on their own, I have to shake the machine or push them down into the teeth manually. Often it depends on the beans as smaller lighter roast drop right in, darker oily one seem to be the main issue. Do you see similar issues with this grinder? Dec 30, 2012
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    Melinda M: WIthout knowing how long you've had your machine or this problem I can only assure you that the Virtuoso will not have this type of problem no matter how fine you grind or what type of bean you use. However, before you make your decision to upgrade try cleaning your grinder with Minute Rice. I know it sounds crazy but more than likely it is just caked with leftover beans. Again, I don't know how often you use it, what grade of coffee, how fresh it is or where you're storing it. All will contribute to less than perfect grind. Jan 11, 2013
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    JeffM: Thanks Melinda. The main issue started when I replaced the conical burr. I had ordered one back when I bought it (over 6 years ago I think) and decided to proactively replace the burr since I had the backup all these years. I threw the old one away, not even thinking, and installed the new one and the issues started from there. So there was something different between the two burrs and even Baratza could not offer much helpful advice but said they did see the issue from time to time. I suspect the gap between the inner burr and outer ring was smaller on the replacement. I'll never know for sure since I dumped the old one! Long story short, I'll probably be getting this one since it was otherwise a good grinder, easy to clean and long-lasting! I'm just going to review the other grinders you have first. :) Jan 21, 2013
    Tyler C: I have had this grinder for a few months and I have tried all different kind of beans from oily to dry and I have not had any problems with it. Most of the time I have been using Peet's Major Dickinson blend which is very dark and pretty oily. It is the best grinder I have ever owned. For the price I don't think anything even comes close in my opinion. Jan 13, 2013
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    Adam B: I use this exclusively with espresso beans. Dark and oily roasts to be sure. No problems whatsoever in the 4 months I've had it.

    I've had the same issue with a prior grinder that you mention. The same beans drop into this one fine.
    Jan 12, 2013
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    Dan A: I use dark, oily roasts too and haven't had any issues............ Jan 12, 2013
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    John R: I have never had that problem with this grinder. Good luck Jan 12, 2013
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    robert b: I have a Mazzer Mini for expresso to better control my grind -- that said
    the Baratza has been used for French roast dark and Pete's Major Dickinson.
    I noticed cleaning the grinder burr regularly is required on this machine but other than that it feeds nicely. I appreciated the note on the anti-static grind Bin as it requires less cleaning in the surrounding area compared with the one it replaced.

    Cleaning requires simple disassembly (no tools) and use of "Grindz"
    after reassembly.
    Jan 16, 2013
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    A shopper asked: Does this Grinder grind fine enough for espresso? (Dumb question) Many people on coffee forums seem to think not? Nov 3, 2012
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    Melinda M: Its not a dumb question - not at all. I did a lot of research when I went looking for a grinder. My job requires me to obtain details and specifications for technicians in a calibration laboratory - so I'm used to taking a couple/few extra steps to get detailed information. I tend to be frugal when I make purchases but I won't settle. I was prepared to spend over $300 but kept reading the reviews and reviewing specs to find what I thought would be the best choice "for me." The Vitruoso Precisio was guaranteed by other reviewers that it could provide the perfect grind - it probably can. Extensive research was done in comparison to the other Baratza grinders. But I am not a connoisseur or expert. I wanted good - I don't need perfect. The Virtuoso 586 has been outstanding. Take into consideration that THIS models burrs have been upgraded to match the Baratza Preciso. PERFECT. Yes, place it on the tightest grind for truly great flavor and enjoy your espresso. Oh and make sure to get a great bean. Nov 7, 2012
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    Adam B: Assuming you mean non-pressurized espresso, since that requires a finer grind. I use this grinder with my Nuova Simonelli Oscar. It grinds fine enough, with one caveat: You may need to calibrate it. You can find instructions on Baratza's troubleshooting website. I can't link it here, but you should be able to find it in a search.

    Once I calibrated it to the finer setting, I am able to grind fine enough for espresso. I found that some roasts will grind fine enough on a setting 3 or 4, while others I've had to dial them all the way down to the finest setting, and tamp with a little extra pressure in order to get a good shot. But I haven't yet found a roast that I could not get a good shot from. You may need to tweak and adjust to your favorite roast.

    Other grinders can probably grind finer, but this one is great for the price and it doesn't have the same mess and clogging problems that some of the direct-to-portafilter models have.
    Nov 6, 2012
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    Teri KStaff: We really like the Baratza Virtuoso for espresso grinds. It not only grinds fine, the particles are also consistently-sized, which is very important for espresso. Nov 6, 2012
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    Eric S: I have not had that problem. I like this machine and recommend it to others when asked.
    Eric
    Nov 6, 2012
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    craig f: Yes look at the video by scg on you tube
    Nov 6, 2012
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    maureen asked: What's the best way to clean the grinds container of the Virtuoso with its "anti-static" coating? Sep 17, 2012
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    Teri KStaff: I generally use a natural brush to remove loose grinds and build up on the container of the Baratza grinders. Cleaning regularly with a product like Grindz also removes oil build up that can occur on the grounds container. Sep 18, 2012
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    Stephen D: Soap and warm water works fine. Wouldn't put it in the dishwasher as the extreme heat could ruin the anti static coating! Sep 18, 2012
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    Jonathan W: I just wash it out with warm water a few times and turn it upside down to drip dry. Sep 18, 2012
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    Richard F: I tap it upside down in the sink after each use. Seems to work well. Sep 18, 2012
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    Russel M asked: I have the older model Virtouso (5 yrs ago) can I switch to the new type burrs? Dec 7, 2013
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    TERRY R: Russel,

    I don't know since this is my first Baratza. I suggest giving the Baratza support team a call directly and I'm sure they can advise you. they're in a suburb of Seattle, so they're on Pacific time, FYI.

    TR
    Dec 8, 2013
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    Dan G: contact Baratza. They will answer this question in a couple of days. Their service is awesome. Feb 4, 2014
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    Faith: Yes, the burrs can be upgraded. Contact Baratza. Dec 9, 2013
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    A shopper asked: Any recommendation as to the best grind setting on this machine when pairing it with a Technivorm Moccamaster? I admit that it's causing me a bit of frustration when trying to 'get it right'. Some websites out there recommend a '28', while others recommend a fairly fine grind (I assume around a '20'). Dec 19, 2012
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    John F: Seems to me the "Vorm" manual asks for a somewhat finer-than-average grind. Or so I have read. I keep mine set around 24 for my Keurig. I'm thinking try '20' & see what you get. Jan 28, 2013
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    John D: I would love to give you a set number but I how found that the settings change with the coffee I get. I have a Robusta coffee that I set at 3 for espresso and a 8 with a blend. I am not familiar with the Technivorm but I would guess you would need to do some trial and error. Try staying consistent with any human element and look at you tube videos to see what the final drip should look like. Hope this helps Jan 11, 2013
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    Jim S asked: Hi , we bought the encore grinder at SCAA, and miss an adjustable timer feature. Do you have a home use model with that feature? I will be embarrassed if you tell me the encore has one, but happy. Thanks Jim stewart May 24, 2014
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    Teri KStaff: Though the Baratza Encore does not have a timer, their other models like this Virtuoso do offer this feature. The Virtuoso also offers a different burr set and grinds a bit finer than the Encore does, so it is a better option for espresso grinding than the Encore. There is not an Encore with a timer and I am not sure why Baratza does not offer a timer on this model, unfortunately! May 26, 2014
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    Jim S: Hi again, ok just to be clear the timer is adjustable or does it turn off after one minute? Thanks May 26, 2014
    Teri KStaff: The Virtuoso has a 60 second timer, however it is adjustable, as you can turn it to a quarter or half position if you'd prefer to grind just 15 or 30 seconds. May 26, 2014
    Jim S: Ok thanks jim May 26, 2014
    A shopper asked: CAN I GET A DECENT TURKISH GRIND WITH THIS MACHINE?? May 13, 2014
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    Teri KStaff: No, this Baratza Virtuoso doesn't get quite as fine as what I would recommend for Turkish coffee. I would recommend the Turkish Hand Grinder we offer and I have included the link below:

    http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/turkish-coffee-grinder
    May 13, 2014
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    A shopper asked: Does the hopper fill from the top or the back? Jan 23, 2014
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    Teri KStaff: The hopper on the Baratza Virtuoso fills from a lid at the top. Jan 23, 2014
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    Faith asked: I use French press at home and Aeropress at work. I don't use a super-coarse grind for my French press and find that a relatively fine grind with the S-filter gives me an almost identical cup to a french press with the Aeropress. I'm looking for consistency in grinds and relatively easy clean-up. I use French roast or my own custom blends of lighter and darker roasts. I use Fair trade, organic high quality beans only. Will the Virtuoso fit my needs? Oct 31, 2013
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    Teri KStaff: Yes, I think that the Baratza Virtuoso would be a great grinder option for you! It is the case that this grinder will allow for consistency of particles and I think you will be pleased with the range of coarse to fine as well. Lastly, though no grinder is completely mess free, the Virtuoso does offer a container for grinding into and also has a anti static coating for less mess. Hope this helps! Nov 4, 2013
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    Faith: Thanks, Teri. I ordered the Virtuoso yesterday. After a lot of research, I think it will be a decent fit for my needs.

    I think using Grindz will eliminate a lot of clean-up issues. I just tried it in my decrepit Capresso burr grinder (I'm sooo embarrassed!) and Grindz actually improved its performance, and I always cleaned it regularly. But I am primed for a decent grinder and since I refuse to get into the espresso addiction (I know myself too well!) I'm hopeful the Virtuoso will fill my needs and be reliable with the newer model.

    One more question, if you don't mind: will it be fairly easy to switch from french press to Aeropress grind? I fill the hopper with what I need to grind at one time.

    Thanks for answering my questions! Nov 4, 2013
    Teri KStaff: Yes, the grind is very easy to change with the Virtuoso! All you would need to do is turn the hopper to adjust, and the grind is marked and stepped on this unit, so you know which numbers you use for your favorite settings. If you do have grounds left between the burrs or beans in the hopper, just keep in mind you want to adjust the grind with the grinder running, so these grounds can be pushed through the unit. Nov 9, 2013
    Garrett G asked: Can you grind right into the porta-filter? Aug 8, 2013
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    Teri KStaff: You can, but the Baratza Virtuoso does not have a portafilter holder. If you wanted to purchase this separately, it can be found at the link below:

    http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/baratza-portaholder
    Aug 9, 2013
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    Garrett G: Thanks for getting back. I'm looking for a grinder in the $300 range for my work (a church) we don't do a ton of shots maybe only 20 a week, but all within 2 hrs. What would you recommend? Aug 12, 2013
    Teri KStaff: That is a tough call! It is really tricky to grind such a large amount in a very short amount of time, and unfortunately it will really strain any machine at that lower home level and a $300 price point. At minimum, I would suggest that you look at the Mazzer grinders for 20 shots in 2 hours. The Mazzer I would recommend checking out can be found at the link below:

    http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/mazzer-mini-flat-burr-espresso-grinder-v2 Aug 13, 2013
    bmullan b asked: doe the baratza virtuouso v2 have the updated preciso burrs? Apr 20, 2013
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    Teri KStaff: Yes, this Virtuoso has the updated Preciso burrs. Apr 20, 2013
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    A shopper asked: Does anyone know what the specific differences are between this model and the Preciso? They both have the same burrs with microadjustments and the only difference I can tell is it looks like this model doesn't have a portafilter holder. Am I missing something else? Apr 14, 2013
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    Teri KStaff: Unfortunately, the Virtuoso does not have the additional micro-adjustments that the Preciso has. Essentially the Virtuoso has 40 macro adjustments, while the Preciso has those 40, plus 11 micro adjustments. And yes, with the Preciso you also get a portafilter holder standard with the machine! Apr 15, 2013
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    Warranty Information for the Baratza Virtuoso Grinder

    What it Covers:

    Grinders

    Length: 1 Year
    Who Supports the Warranty: Baratza
    Warranty Contact Information: 877-701-2021
    Notes: Baratza has excellent troubleshooting resources on their website. If you're experiencing an issue with your grinder, definitely look here first.
    Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? No
    Can SCG Repair? Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

    Caring for the Baratza Virtuoso Grinder

    Clean burrs on a weekly to bi-weekly basis either with a cleaning brush or a burr grinder-specific cleaning product such as Grindz.

    Remove and hand wash the bean hopper and lid with warm water and soap as needed.


    User Manuals for your Baratza Virtuoso Grinder


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    good, if you can get your grind size to stay

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    I really like this grinder. Its good from espresso, to french press. I've had it about 2 weeks now, and I don't know if mines defective , but at first, I was grinding for pour overs at 21, now I have to do it at 17. That seems like a big jump. French press went from 34 to 30. Its a little loud, but if you put your hand on top, it quiets it.

    (Posted on 5/15/14)

    excellent

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    I have this coffee grinder for about 6 months now and I use it every day. I think it is relatively quiet and does a great job grinding. It is easy to clean. I don't agree with any of the negative reviews this grinder gets. You have a choice of "many" grind settings. I think it is the "perfect" grinder. I have never had better tasting coffee. I highly recommend buying this....

    (Posted on 3/16/14)

    It's ok

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    It has been a pretty good grinder with only a few quarks. I have owned it for over a year now and It feels very sturdy and has a decent amount weight to it. I wish there was a little more stainless steel instead of the plastic, but for the price it is good. The only issue I have is that on my Oscar I seem to be between grind settings. I think it is a great value for the money, but would probably opt for something with more grind settings like the precision or the vario with my next grinder purchase.

    (Posted on 2/27/14)

    Great value for the money

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    I've had it over a month, now. Bought after reading lots of reviews and watching SCG videos that were very helpful. To be honest, I just couldn't justify spending more money on a grinder, but I did want quality.

    Pros: Consistent grinds, not too noisy, solid feel and look, easy to adjust, not messy, virtually no static cling.

    Cons: Maybe not having to hold the on button down to grind, but minor issue. Haven't used the timer much. On/off option would have been nice, but omitting this feature may be due to safety reasons (leaving the grinder unattended when grinding)

    I use it mainly for drip and French press, occasional espresso, and change the beans based on my mood and use. I measure out only as many beans as I need to grind for my morning coffee and grind until they pass through. That way when I want to change the beans or grind setting it's easy to do. It might have been nice to have a removable bean hopper so as to remove excess beans when changing to a different bean, but it's not really needed if you only use as many beans as you need. Note: Baratza recommends not running the grinder when empty on very fine settings.

    All in all, very satisfied so far.

    (Posted on 2/14/14)

    So far so good

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    Just picked it up and have used it half a dozen times or so. First impressions, it's a sturdy unit for the price range (yes it's "plasticky" feeling but it has a heavier motor in it yielding a fair amount of torque keeping the grind slow enough not to heat up too soon). It is fair to middlin`on the noise side (that probably could have been reduced substantially by better body materials). I use it to dose espresso grinds into the portafilter, and it does that okay, as it does have a tendency to get messy regardless of how careful you are. I agree with most about the timer: it's a waste of time (pun intended). I couldn't believe the knob falls off so easily, and really, in this day of digital everything, why do you have to turn an analogue/manual timer every time? Why not a simply electronic display with a second timer that remembers your last setting, or maybe lets you program 2 or 3 settings you can toggle through. Heck, you can pick up a cheap timer at Walmart for $10.00, you could as have easily incorporated that into the FRONT`of the unit. My only concern is that this will not last as long as my trusty ol` Braun blade grinder (coming up on 28 years of continual use, and only one blade change), but that concern is only because others here have expressed issues. All in all I could not justify paying another $100 for a Rocky, or $150 to a Macap, and this unit looks like it has the legs to give me years of good use. I`m glad I got it and I am pretty sure I made the right decision for the value-slash-price point.

    (Posted on 2/9/14)

    great support leads to my good decision

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    review the videos, got great personal input from various staff members ultimately made a decision I am happy with.

    (Posted on 12/31/13)

    Satisfactory

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    We purchased a 585 (serial 081766 w/450 watt DC motor) from SCG many years ago. I'm very pleased with all the time staff offered me in questions, objective explanations, pricing, and free shipping. Thoroughly recommend SCG!!

    PROS: Better quality than anything retailed at your local cafe. Built to last; excellent burrs, reasonable price. Burrs anchored well compared to other brands. Never had static problem, even during 5% humidity. Nor does it attract dust. Little vibration. No clogs. We've used it mostly for French Press & sometimes Espresso. At holidays we've ground a pound+ at a time, in cycles mostly at drip as gifts. Easy to take apart & clean. 450rpm does not heat grounds, even in large quantities. Only on long, fine grinds has slight heat build up been detected. We like motor grinding strength and endurance. It's very easy to use. Hopper is great; grounds transfer mess-free. Professional appearance. NO digital displays or circuitry to fry out!!! Simple lasts forever!! The weight is a plus as it doesn't shift around counter.

    CONS: Timer provides only rough guess of quantity ground. Knob keeps falling off with loud clang. Very noisy when operating even if lifted off surface. Maintaining grind mandates adjusting toward fine side over time, which is troubling and aggravating. 586 has improved burrs but can they interchange with 585?

    Summary: Our product is a nearly bulletproof, durable workhorse. We use only oily beans, and clean often to protect taste. Also, FP or drip grind is the norm, espresso grind rarely used. Can't offer opinion on other beans/grinds. Noise is an issue. Better insulation in chassis, around burrs, or rubber knobs on feet would help. Timer knob & calibration issue reflects poor quality for money. Best to underestimate grind time needed & finish using button. Overall, we're pleased and have more than gotten our money's worth. It's time we replaced our burrs. IF settings truly represented & kept desired grind, these easy to use manual settings would be preferable to "improved" later models.

    What bothers us most are recent reviews re 586. Too many users have machines which reflect factory design/durability issues. A disappointing that these better burrs don't hold the desired grind but we can't complain about their durability. We advise buyers to perform extreme research given all reviews. Double check claims that other grinders, some operating at >1500rpm don't heat beans. Beware of digital gadgetry due to vibrations.

    (Posted on 12/25/13)

    great grinder

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    We love the Virtuoso so long as I make sure to clean it regularly, including removing the burr.

    (Posted on 12/6/13)

    Pleased, with a few reservations.

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    I was looking for a grinder that would have an even grind for french press and be easily adjusted to a finer grind for my Aeropress. I refuse to go down the rabbit hole of home-brewed espresso. I'm obsessed enough, so I was looking for a grinder that wasn't necessarily espresso-centric and would do well on coarser grinds - this is not an easy find and the Virtuoso was the grinder universally recommended for my needs.

    I am pleased with the Virtuoso (after a few beginning issues). The coarse grind is much better than my old Capresso and it is easy to adjust it for a finer grind, and switch back and forth.

    I had a lot of static in the beginning - I find the key to minimizing static is to wait a few minutes before removing the grinds bin, 'smack' the grinder at the back. I get very little static this way.

    PRO:

    Even grind, easy to adjust. I suggest adjusting the grinder while it's running - I didn't think my grounds were very even at first, but then I made my adjustments while it was running and everything appears to be working fine now.

    Very little build-up of grounds in the chute. I threw away tons of coffee from the Capresso in grinds left in the chute and digging out the compacted grounds. I have virtually no waste at all with the Virtuoso, which is a big plus and a little brushing of the chute and it's squeaky clean. Excellent!

    Quiet, for a coffee grinder.

    CONS:

    More static than I had with the Capresso but as noted above, I've solved a lot of that problem.

    The timer is imprecise and kind of useless. I'm timing now while holding the button. I would love to set an amount and/or precise time. I think a coffee grinder of this price should have that feature. The timer starts immediately so any hesitation in finding the setting makes for an imprecise amount of coffee. It's also difficult to see, hidden on the side instead of in front. If there were little 'tick' marks, you could set it more precisely. This is a major design flaw in my opinion. I'm considering getting the Esatto so I can grind by weight. I wanted to make sure I loved the grinder before making that additional investment.

    My biggest beef: the open 'seam' under the coffee grounds bin. There is NO WAY to not get tons of chaff, etc. building up underneath the coffee grinder, which will involve disassembly that I don't think I should have to do. I clean it every time I use the grinder, hoping to get as much out of that seam as possible. I think this is a major design failure and shouldn't be an issue in a coffee grinder of this price point.

    All in all, the Virtuoso appears to be a quality product. I am happy with the results, with the few stated reservations.

    (Posted on 11/25/13)

    Baratza Virtuoso grinder

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    It may be a bit early to review with such high scores but I love this grinder so far. I use it almost daily for espresso. It took a bit of playing with the grind at first but now I have it set so that it is working well. It doesn't seem to noisy to me. Yes, a little messy but not terrible, I'm not sure how you could completely avoid some coffee grinds spilling out. This grinder has improved my espresso, no doubt.

    I come to the Seattle Coffee Gear website for information. Love Gail's videos, they have helped me a bunch.

    (Posted on 11/3/13)

    Great machine

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    We're very pleased with this grinder! So far we've only used it for our Cuisinart drip machine (I know this makes some of you recoil in horror); but we also have a French press and a Breville espresso machine which will be up and running soon!

    I loved the video on this site comparing the Virtuoso with the Breville Smart grinder. It was very helpful. I think this is a perfect grinder for people who want to rachet up a notch from a cheaper option. It really makes a difference in the flavor of your coffee.

    (Posted on 10/18/13)

    Does it's job

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    I have now used this grinder but have had issues getting the proper setting for my taste and though it is great at its job the process may take a while. I am still experimenting and will get the proper setting. The unit needs a finer setting like its higher end products but should try to keep the price at most coffee lovers financial appeal.
    As for SCG, thanks for your informative videos they help narrow my selection and what I need to know as a novice coffee drinker and grinder. Thumbs up SCG........

    (Posted on 10/1/13)

    Very pleased with Virtuoso

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    Was looking for a machine the produces a uniform course grind with minimal fines for French press. This has reduced the fines probably by 95% relative to several prior machines I have owned.

    This has made a huge improvement in the quality of my coffee! If you are going to buy good (pricy) coffee, treat it right and get the most of it. The price, although painful today, will get you more from the investment in good beans over time.

    Very pleased with the Virtuoso.

    (Posted on 9/28/13)

    Versatile, Efficient, Effective

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    Decided on this model based upon studying the SCG website and others. It is a step up from 2 prior burr grinders, both of which failed after about 18 months of daily use.
    The warnings said it would be (a) noisy, (b) a bit messy. I have found it to be neither. It is very efficient, versatile, and effective, producing excellent and consistent grinds on various settings. (I primarily use one for espresso and one for French Press every morning.)
    The only con I've encountered over the almost one month of use is it is a bit awkward to clean. Also, a cautionary note: when replacing the removable burr after a cleaning, be sure the little red dot on the top is at 5 o'clock when looking in from the front of the machine. If you don't, your grinds will be messed up.
    Happy Grinding and enjoy your brew!

    (Posted on 7/22/13)

    Great improvement over older model

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    Our older Baratza Solis Maestro stopped working after about 10 years. We ordered a new timer and knob, and now it's working fine. But in the interim we had also ordered a new Baratza Virtuoso, and it's an amazing improvement. We use our coffee grinder for drip, and it can grind very, very finely, too fine for our everyday purposes. The finest should be good for espresso. But the great thing is that this model grinds the amount of coffee we need in 1/3 the amount of time, and is far, far quieter. And it works so smoothly. It's a real pleasure, and worth the added cost over the base model.

    (Posted on 7/5/13)

    Terrific grinder!

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    Received my Virtuoso today from SCG along with the Velton's coffee I ordered and couldn't wait to tear open the box. Thrilled with both the grinder and the coffee! I have been using a grinder that I paid about $50 for now for about 3 years and it did fine considering but boy what a difference in the two! Thank you SCG. Love you videos and am trying now to decide on an espresso machine.

    (Posted on 7/1/13)

    Great - until it breaks

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    We've had the Baratza Virtuoso for about a year. It produced a consistently good grind until the gearbox failed. There doesn't seem to be any way of repairing it. I thought that paying more would ensure I had a grinder that would last longer. I was wrong. There are few things worse than getting up in the morning looking forward to a good espresso and then having to drive to Starbucks to get it because your expensive grinder had a gearbox failure and won't grind the beans. Grrrrrr. I'll go back to a cheaper model and just buy 2 so I have an extra when one fails.

    (Posted on 6/29/13)

    Really too new to find any faults with this grinder. So far, very good performance.

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    Grinder is really brand new but so far grinds smoothly and evenly producing a far more regular grind than all of our previous grinders. I will let you know how it works a year from now.

    (Posted on 6/3/13)

    Grinder completely stopped working after just 4 months

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    I have used it almost daily for four months. I cleaned it for about the fourth time, and after I put it all back together, it will not turn on at all. Very disappointing.

    (Posted on 5/11/13)

    A good choice.

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    Been using it for a few weeks every day and it's been working great.I've been using it for drip coffee and after a little experimentation I got the grind just right.The timer knob hasn't been a problem and the grinding mechanism is fast and even.The coffee bin emptys cleanly and the machine generates hardly any noise.Read the instructions and follow them and you should be very happy with your purchase.

    (Posted on 4/8/13)

    Awesome Grinder

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    Super happy. This is an awesome grinder and I am super happy with my purchase. Some reviews online mention the grind not being fine enough. I have not had that problem and the fine setting I feel is way too fine for espresso. It's like a soft powder. Also some other reviews mention the flimsy auto-timmer switch. Mine came with a nice metal one and it feels real solid. Baratza must of fixed that. Couldn't be happier with my grinder purchase. It made a HUGE difference in my shot quality!!!!!

    (Posted on 1/6/13)

    Best in its class

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    Grind quality and speed is excellent. The adjustment mechanism works well. I'm using this grinder for drip brewing. Cleaning is easy compared to Rocky or Mazzer grinders. Noise is not bad. The on/off control, which is a timer, is awful and is out of character with the rest of the product. The knob falls off every other day. The feel of the control is just wrong, it feels flimsy. The Mazzers have a similar on/off timer, and the feel is outstanding. But the Baratza has some give to it, that is just flimsy, it feels like a two cent part. The color and finish of the knob doesn't match the rest of the unit either. The pulse switch on the front works well and feels good. The rest of the grinder seems to be built well, and seems solid.

    (Posted on 1/1/13)

    get more from your espresso machine

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    I had trouble adapting to this machine because it doesn't make dirt like my old grinder, but it really makes a great spresso none the less. It has improved the espresso from both of our machines and i had thought i was doing it right all this time. Abandon your old grinder and get this reasonably priced grinder, you won't regret it. The timer is cheesy but you don't need it and the grind more than makes up for it.

    (Posted on 9/12/12)

    Terrific grinder with only one tiny flaw

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    Terrific grinder that I use several times per week. After a few test grinds, I found the right setting for my espresso machine: 8 out of 40. Lots of room to grind even finer if needed. The main purpose for me is espresso grinding. Haven't tried to do French press yet.

    It is surprisingly quiet, and not particularly messy (some static, but I've had far worse). The tiny flaw I mentioned is the timer on mechanism: the small handle comes separate, and is difficult to attach. It works, but falls off from time to time and never feels secure. After I pushed it on to the post with a great deal of pressure, it seems better, but not quite right. This is the only flaw I can perceive, and it's entirely acceptable.

    Pros:
    Quiet, Easy To Clean, Easy To Use

    Cons:
    Flimsy timer handle

    (Posted on 5/16/12)

    Awesome grinder for the price

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    I previously used the Baratza Maestro to grind coffee for expresso. The Virtuoso grinder is a step up. I can now get a fine enough grind to get the 20-25 sec shot, unlike before. The results are like night and day in terms of the quality of expresso. I would highly recommend this entry level grinder for espresso.

    Pros:
    Great Taste, Easy To Use

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    (Posted on 4/7/12)

    Fantastic but pricey.

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    I use this grinder to make pour overs in the Hario V60 and the Chemex with KONE (sometimes in a french press as well). The grinder works very well as the reviews describe. It sounds sort of clunky and not smooth yet produces a great grind and a wonderful cup of coffee. The grinder is not very quiet like I thought it would be. The timer on the side is not as bad as some people describe but it works. Still, the timer, is not the most solid component of the machine. Regardless it has a button you can hold to grind as much as you want. Changing grind particle size is very easy with a twist of the hopper. The grinder itself is quite heavy and solid leading me to believe that it will last a long time with good parts. The grinder also has some sort of anti-static to the coffee catcher. I have read by some people that it doesn't work but it does. Of course you're going to get coffee on the table sometimes, you're dealing with ground coffee; it works great and pours out nice. I work as a professional coffee roaster and I am now making better coffee at home than at the shop. This is a wonderful grinder but it's a little pricey. If you want to make great at home coffee and blow your guests away, this is it. But you have to pay for it.

    Pros:
    Great Taste, Easy To Use, Easy To Clean, Stylish

    Cons:
    Sounds Clunky, Noisy

    (Posted on 3/30/12)

    Prosumer grinder at its best

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    40 grind levels offer more than enough range for the most discerning coffee brewer. Homogeneous grinds, very few fines.

    Pros:
    Easy To Use, Clean lines, Even grinds, Commercial Grade, Reasonably quiet

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    (Posted on 3/24/12)

    Perfect Grinder for home

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    My partner and I purchased a La Pavoni manual espresso machine for Christmas. We have enjoyed learning how to perfect our technique. We are fortunate to have three independent roasters in our neighborhood, but even so we found it difficult to ensure a consistent grind. So we took the plunge and decided to get a grinder. After making a trip to the showroom we asked questions of the staff and looked over the many models. We didn't want to break the bank for a grinder, but didn't want a cheap machine that would break down in 1 year. The Virtuoso is compact, sturdy, well made and has performed without a hitch. We did purchase the optional portafilter holder. This handy attachment has kept any mess in check. We couldn't be happier with this addition to our kitchen.

    Pros:
    Easy To Use, Easy To Clean, Relatively compact, Sturdy weight

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    (Posted on 3/17/12)

    baratza virtuoso 586

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    I purchased this for the upgraded preciso burrs. I previously owned the virtuoso 585 and was very pleased with that grinder. It is a world of difference going from a $20 blade grinder to the virtuoso 585. I like the 585 so much, when I heard that Baratza made the improvements to the virtuoso, I had to upgrade asap. I had a chance to compare the grinds from the 585 to 586 and you can definitely see a difference in the consistency of the grind size. I grind for my chemex and I can see that the grind size looks to be a bit more uniform. After a few weeks, and about 30 batches of coffee, I feel like I'm getting better extraction from my brews. I use the grinder for my chemex with the paper filters and chemex with the coava kone an this new grinder has improved my pours substantially. I really think Baratza makes quality grinders, and this improved virtuoso 586 is no exception.

    Pros:
    Great Taste, Commercial Grade, Easy To Use, Easy To Clean, Consistent

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    (Posted on 3/5/12)

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