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Bottomless Portafilter for Rancilio Silvia - V3 Style

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Constructed exclusively for your Rancilio Silvia V3 or a Rancilio Commercial Machine, this Bottomless Portafilter features the traditional ergonomic Rancilio portafilter handle with a logo on its end and a design that allows you to watch as you extract velvety, smooth shots.
Bottomless Portafilter for Rancilio Silvia - V3 Style

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Constructed exclusively for your Rancilio Silvia V3 or a Rancilio Commercial Machine, this 58mm Bottomless Portafilter features the traditional ergonomic Rancilio portafilter handle with a logo on its end and a design that allows you to watch as you extract velvety smooth shots. It includes a triple filter basket with the Rancilio Silvia Bottomless Portafilter. Single and double Rancilio portafilter baskets are sold separately.

Pros
  • Fit - This Bottomless Portafilter fits all Rancilio machines, both home and commercial.
  • Triple Filter Basket - A triple filter basket is included with this portafilter.
Cons
  • Rancilio Machines Only - This portafilter is only guaranteed to work with Rancilio machines.
Ease of Use 4
Ease of Care and Maintenance 4
Overall Value for the Money 4
How Does it Compare? This Bottomless Portafilter is snug and is made only for Rancilio machines versus generic models.
Width 58mm
Depth 9.0 inches
Product Weight (lbs.) 1.5000
Material Stainless Steel
Manufacturer Rancilio

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Bottomless Portafilter for Rancilio Silvia - V3 Style
Already Asked: 7 Questions, 28 Answers
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dave s asked: Why do I need a bottomless filter, what is the advantage? Will my existing double basket fit in the new filter? Thanks. Sep 11, 2013
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Matthew W: A bottomless filter gives you an enormous advantage in viewing the progress of your espresso extraction. It allows to you see if you have problems with:

- microchanneling (thin spray of liquid)
- tamping (spotted as uneven emergence of liquid from the basket bottom)
- extraction colo
- grind
- dose

With the original portafilter, the closed design hides a lot of these problems that prevent you from achieving a true "god shot" of espresso. Everyone from beginners to experts learn a great deal from bottomless portafilters just merely by being able to see the extraction from the bottom of the basket. To add to that, some of the best espresso bars I've been to all use bottomless portafilters on each of the group heads rather than the single and double spout portafilters.

Yes, the original double and single basket fits into this portafilter, and this is the preferred portafilter to buy versus a generic 58mm bottomless portafilter. The seal is much better because the portafilter was ground from an original Rancilio Silvia portafilter handle.

Hope this helps!
Sep 13, 2013
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Phillip H: Yes your double basket will fit the Rancilio bottomless portafilter.
I use the bottomless basket on my Rancilio Silvia V3 and prefer it over the two spout portafilter that came with the machine for these reasons:
1. You can see the shot coming out of the basket and make adjustments on the next shot.
2. With no bottom, there is significantly less mass to rob heat from your shot. So there is less pre-heat time required and your shot will be hotter.
3. The bottomless filter is lighter and easier to handle.
4. The shot will form into a single stream suitable for a small shot glass.
Sep 11, 2013
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Patrick C: The bottomless portafilter is great if you want to get a better picture of the espresso as it comes out. It seems most people use this to help perfect their tamp -- for example, if the espresso pours faster from one side, then your tamp is uneven. If you search for bottomless portafilter you can find some good tutorial on how to diagnose your coffee with them.

Yes, you can use your existing double basket in the new filter. The basket will not be flush with the bottom of the portafilter, but it doesn't cause any problems.
Sep 11, 2013
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Leigh P: Yes, the blind, single, double, and triple all snap right in. All are nice and tight. The bottomless triple in particular is my favorite, and seems much more forgiving to variances in grind/tamp/beans and produces a beautiful crema. I tend to make one cup at time so positioning is far easier for a small 2oz glass than in the two spout version. The bottomless is particularly valuable as a tool to improve one's tamp. You can instantly see if your tamp is uneven by watching where it gathers. Sep 14, 2013
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Ray M: I love my bottomless filter as it has helped me see how well I load and tamp my basket. It shows you if you have some leaks in the puck. But for me it also gives a better cremma and nicer look to the pull. It is a bit messier in that you will get some small spouts of coffee escaping but i find the trade off well worth it. I don't know which basket you are using but it works perfectly with my La Marzocco double basket. Sep 11, 2013
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David V: Advantage is to see how your extraction is going - lets you know if it is running through the coffee evenly and not creating fishers in your puck. It is supposed to help you get your pack and grind dialed in. I found it useful but it did make a little spatter mess as the coffee is not directed down a spout it is just freely flows from the entire bottom. Yes your current double filter should fit. Hope that helps! Sep 11, 2013
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Jacob H: \It helps you control your tamp better (can see if the water is channeling). Because of that, it'll ultimately teach you how to make better shots because you can actually see what is going on. You also get more cup clearance.

Yes, your existing double basket will fit in the new filter. It also comes with a triple basket. The triple won't fit in your existing portafilter, just the bottomless.
Sep 11, 2013
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Luis N: The bottomless portafilter produces an expresso with more cream, but only if you use it with a double or triple filter.
I use this portafilter if I want to drink a double or triple expresso
You can see it working in youtube
Of course you can use it with any basket for rancilio but I dont like how it work with the single filter
Sep 11, 2013
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RENE S: I use it to make a triple-shot espresso if I need an extra-large latte-to-go...
The basket is deeper than the standard basket, but the double filter also fits this Portafilter.
It also gets you extra clearance if you want to pull a shot into a regular sized (taller) mug which would normally not fit under the regular filter.
Sep 11, 2013
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Marcin R: The bottomless portafilter lets you see how the coffee is flowing through the basket, and helps you identify problems of packing the coffee, and makes it easier to see when it's done extracting.

The single and double shot baskets fit into the bottomless filter, and it comes with a triple shot basket.
Sep 11, 2013
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Edward C: The advantage is that it allows one to gauge the evenness of ones tamp and distribution by how evenly the extraction begins and progresses. Also, there are no hidden surfaces to harbor oils and gunk and is therefore easier to keep clean. All three baskets will fit the bottomless portafilter. Sep 11, 2013
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Paul K: I only use the bottomless portafilter since buying it. It seems to make a (much) richer, creamier espresso / latte. Also, you cannot swap out the basket from other portafilters, at least not the other Rancillio ones that I have. I wish I had two of these. You won't be disappointed! Sep 11, 2013
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Kevin A: The bottomless filters are helpful to diagnose various shot pulling technique issues. It also supports a 3-shot basket, which is a plus - but the standard 2-shot basket will fit just fine. It also just looks cool to see the liquid gold flow from the grounds into your shot glass... Sep 11, 2013
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Eric F: You don't need one. They assist in helping people pull shots. You will be able to see if your shot is channeling. Your basket should fit in this porta filter. They also look a lot cooler when you pull a shot. Check out some YouTube videos. Sep 11, 2013
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mr6volt m: With a bottomless portafilter, you can see if you tamped the grinds correctly. Meaning, if the espresso doesn't come out in a single stream from the center of the basket, you did it wrong. Plus, more of the crema survives. Sep 11, 2013
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Adam P: The advantage is...
It comes with a triple basket.
It's got a sexy, sleek look.
It's easier to fit a cup under.
It makes it easier to fine tune your pull.
...and yes your double basket will fit.
Sep 11, 2013
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Karl S: A bottomless portafilter shows the extraction and can indicate if there is channeling occurring. This helps in adjusting the grind and tamp. Also, the double basket fits just fine in the bottomless portafilter. Sep 17, 2013
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Dennis G: Hi Dave,
The difference may be subtle but I think the bottomless portafilter delivers more crema and the coffee comes out hotter. Yes, your existing double basket will fit the new filter.
Sep 13, 2013
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A shopper asked: Will this work on a Version 1?

It says Version 3 "Style" but that implies that it will work, but may have a different look?
Nov 11, 2012
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Matthew W: You are getting exactly what you see in that picture: it's an exact portafilter off of the V3 Rancilio Silvia Portafilter, just bottomless. I've used this before on the Rancilio Silvia V3 too:

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/bottomless-portafilter-58mm-with-triple-basket

This one fits on multiple E61 brewheads, and also the V3 Silvia.
Nov 19, 2012
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Paul K: I do not know for sure. The information I read on another seller website indicates that the main differences between v 2 and v 3 are steam wand and electrical.

You should just call the people at Seattle Coffee Gear. They were more than happy to help me on the telephone before my purchase - I was actually surprised; they clearly have made the connection between selling and customer satisfaction.

In any event, the naked portafilter is the best. It makes the creamiest espresso that I have ever seen.
Nov 19, 2012
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Kevin A: I believe it should work fine on the Silvia V1.

I use this bottomless portafilter everyday and find it to work much better than some cheaper 3rd party portfilters. The fit is much better and the seal is tighter.
Nov 20, 2012
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Felix S: This looks and works just like the one I got with the Silvia, just bottomless. I use this now with the original double filter. It's beautiful! Nov 19, 2012
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Teri KStaff: Exactly! The Version 3 Style refers to the logo handle of this Silvia portafilter, but it will work with your Version 1 or 2 Silvia machine. Nov 19, 2012
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Adam W asked: I recently purchased a Rancilio HSD-SILVIA Silvia Espresso Machine, is this portafilter compatible? More generally, is the HSD and V3 the same model? Aug 23, 2014
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Teri KStaff: I am not sure what HSD refers to on your Silvia, however the Bottomless Portafilter for the Silvia fits versions 1, 2, and 3. The V3 Style on this listing simply specifies that the handle matches the V3 handle of the Silvia portafilter. Aug 25, 2014
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A shopper asked: Will this Item work on Classe 7 Machine? Apr 7, 2014
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Teri KStaff: Yes, this portafilter will fit all Rancilio commerical machines including the Classe 7. Apr 9, 2014
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A shopper asked: SCG sells 57mm tampers. What size is recommended for the Silvia with a 58mm portafilter? Jan 21, 2014
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Teri KStaff: If you have a 58mm portafilter, you want to purchase a 58mm tamper. The tamper size is actually manufactured a bit smaller than the actual basket size to fit inside, so you still need the corresponding size. Hope this clarifies! Jan 21, 2014
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A shopper asked: Hi
My Siliva is V1 version, will this portafilter works for me? thanks
Albert
Oct 30, 2013
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Teri KStaff: Yes, this portafilter will work with your version 1 (or version 2) Silvia just fine, it simply has the V3 style handle. Oct 31, 2013
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Andy B asked: What size tamper is recommended for the bottomless portafilter?
i know people have had trouble fitting 58mm tamers into the double basket.
Aug 26, 2013
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Teri KStaff: I am not sure what trouble you may have read about the compatibility of a 58mm tamper with a Silvia portafilter, however it is the size we have found to work perfectly well with both bottomless and standard portafilters. Aug 27, 2013
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Warranty Information for the Bottomless Portafilter for Rancilio Silvia

What it Covers:

Rancilio espresso machines and grinders

Length:

- 2 Years (Silvia and Rocky)

- 1 Year (Commercial-class machines and grinders)

Who Supports the Warranty: Seattle Coffee Gear
Warranty Contact Information: 866-372-4734 or email us at warranty@seattlecoffeegear.com
Notes:

The Silvia and Rocky are eligible for SCG's standard warranty support and service. Learn more about what's covered.

All other espresso machines and grinders are covered by a limited, commercial-class warranty. For more information on service and support, please discuss with your commercial sales rep.

Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? Yes (Silvia only).
Can SCG Repair? Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

Caring for the Bottomless Portafilter for Rancilio Silvia

  • Empty and rinse portafilter under warm water after every use.

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I'm getting really good shots and it is fun to watch the process come through the bottomless filter. The best thing I notice is more creama in the cup and a richer brown look. I've added one new thing in that I'm lifting the frothing picture higher after I start pouring in the milk the lowering it as I saw in a video.

(Posted on 6/24/14)

helped me finally master my shots

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I'd figured out temperature surfing and getting the right grind and tamp pressure, but as silly as it might sound - I struggled to get the grinds level in the standard portafilter which made it hard to lock the portafilter in the machine and/or inconsistent shot. The flat bottom on this portafilter was exactly what I needed. It's so satisfying and beautiful to watch that steady single stream flow through and the results are delicious every time!
Even if your challenge is different, or especially if you're not sure what you're doing wrong, this is a great educational tool. Just change one variable at a time and monitor the results. Though it can be messy until you get it right - have a sponge close at hand!
The price did give me pause before I made the purchase, but the quality is excellent and the results well worth it.

(Posted on 6/18/14)

next level

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I've pulled shots with my Rancilio Silvia for years and had all the particulars down pat. This bottomless portafilter takes things to the next level. It's messy when you don't get things right. It shows you where you've missed the mark. But what I didn't realize is that, when you do get it right, it produces a better shot than without. Add to that the bonus of a true triple pull, and you get heaven on earth plus one more ounce.

(Posted on 3/21/14)

GREAT ( ! )

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I absolutely love the two of them. Pulling much better, and most consistent shots with them. I would recommend them to everyone.

(Posted on 11/19/13)

great for those who really know how to make espresso

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and, of course, I don't know all there is to know.

But I do know that if the grounds are too fine or too coarse and if they aren't packed tightly enough (or too tightly) the result won't be quite adequate.

A bottomless filter lets you see almost immediately if you have ground and packed the coffee adequately.

Messy? Sure, but put the cup up under the filter basket and it will not squirt all over the place. If it continues to do that then you might think bout changing SOMETHING about your process and procedure, eh?

My first shot in the morning is ALWAYS "messy" but the rest are perfect (using a Silvia).

(Posted on 11/17/13)

Awesome Product

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This portafilter is made so nicely and will last for years and years. It's great for seeing what's going on with your shots.

(Posted on 11/7/13)

Great for pull testing, although messy

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I purchased this in order to get a better look at the crema in my pulls. The visibility is great and my shots are nicer than ever. The only drawback is the tendency to splatter even with a proper pull. The quality is great - this is a sturdy product. If the price went down a bit, this product would have received a perfect rating all around.

(Posted on 11/3/13)

Messier and no better than the original portafilter

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I've had my Silvia for ten years. Making a cup of decent crema is -- or was -- automatic at this point. The handle on my stock portafilter finally broke, so given all the frothing about bottomless versions I thought I'd try this.

It was a mistake. Same quality coffee, no more crema, much more mess, scalded fingers, and back to fiddling with grind and tamp trying to find consistency. I'm still at it because I'm stubborn and I don't want to admit that I'm not among the espresso elite, but I'll probably end up having to spend another $60 to end the masochism and get back to enjoying my mornings.

It did fit the old machine fine, and seems to be well made, a little stronger than the original. I still don't like it.

(Posted on 11/2/13)

What are you waiting for?

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Such an improvement over the regular portafilter. The crema never stops. Makes lattes taste more intensely. Love it.

(Posted on 9/3/13)

Makes great espresso, but splatters all over

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This is an excellent product, I recommend it. The crema is even creamier and nicer looking than regular portafilter because there is no obstruction, but this portafilter is quite messy, splatters all over.

(Posted on 4/2/13)

This is the one you really want!

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I searched the web over and over looking for a bottomless portafilter for my Silvia, ended up buying this one and I am so happy I did. It's an actual Rancilio part not a generic like so many others. Works wonderful, looks great. Super happy with this purchase.

(Posted on 12/4/12)

Very Helpfull

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I've always wanted to get a bottomless portafilter so when I saw SCG was selling the Rancilio V3 Style I had to get it. This is one of the better purchases I have made regarding my journey for making awesome espresso. I love being able to see what I am doing right and wrong on my espresso extraction. Not to mention the price for this portafilter was the cheapest I could find online. Delivery was quick and as always SCG has made me a very happy customer.

(Posted on 11/19/12)

Great product

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Well made portafilter. Both the single and double shot baskets that came with the Silvia fit this portafilter. The triple shot basket that comes with this portafilter will be great when pulling shots for a crowd. Now I can see the squirters that are hidden when using a portafilter with spouts. I've made adjustments to my tamping and have reduced the squirters significantly resulting in a more consistent shot. It's nice to see what's going on down there!

(Posted on 9/25/12)

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