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Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine - V2

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Built with the commercial-grade components and handmade craftsmanship you've come to expect from Rocket Espresso, the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler offers you double boiler functionality and dual PID temperature control - all in a plumbable, classically styled chrome and stainless-steel housing. Features of the new V2 model include a stronger chassis complete with nylon rails for a seamless drip tray fit, an upgraded magnetic drip tray closure, and an upgraded control board for optimized steaming and brewing.
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Built with the commercial-grade components and handmade craftsmanship you've come to expect from Rocket Espresso, the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler offers you double boiler functionality and dual PID temperature control — all in a plumbable, classically styled chrome and stainless-steel housing. Features of the new V2 model include a stronger chassis complete with nylon rails for a seamless drip tray fit, an upgraded magnetic drip tray closure, and an updated control board for optimized steaming and brewing.

Features & Functionality of the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine - V2

  • Dual Boiler: Working independently for both brewing and steaming, the dual boiler along with thermo siphon system design allows for stability in the espresso boiler and increased levels of steam pressure and hot water from the service boiler. The brewing boiler holds 0.58 liters while the hot water/steam boiler holds 1.7 liters.
  • Dual PID Temperature Control: Program steam and brew boilers with an electronic remote-control PID that plugs into the side of the machine and does not interfere with the R58's classic styling.
  • Commercial Rotary Pump: Quieter than most other rotary pumps, the R58's pump gives you the ability to adjust the pump pressure with the external pressure adjustment controls while monitoring through the pressure gauges.
  • Pre-Infusion: To extract the full flavor and aroma when you brew your espresso, the R58 has a dual pre-infusion system encompassing a working piston and static pre-infusion chamber.
  • Pressure Gauges: With two pressures gauges on the face of the R58, one monitors the pump while the other monitors the boiler pressure.
  • Commercial Parts: Keeping up to its high standards, Rocket made sure that the R58 was made of quality commercial parts, including the E-61 brewhead, rotary pump and heavy weight portafilter (with single and double baskets).
  • Plumb It!: Standard with a 2.5 liter water reservoir, a control switch allows you to plumb the R58 right into your kitchen's water line.
  • Upgraded and Additional Steam Tip: The steam tip now features a 1.2mm diameter hole, and you get a replacement tip for down the road!
  • Handcrafted: Each machine is unique and hand crafted in Italy. Small warps in the case are normal and part of each machine's unique assembly process.
Pros
  • Dual Boiler - Made of lead-free copper, these boilers guarantee consistent heat retention and faster brewing and steaming turn around time. You'll be able to make more drinks in a quicker amount of time.
  • Electronic Controls - No need to crack into the brain of this machine, the double PID maintains both boiler temperatures and can be programmed with an electronic remote control box on the side of the machine.
  • Rotary Pump - To give create ideal pressure, this quiet rotary pump has an external pressure adjustment control so you can adjust the pump pressure with the use of the visible pressure gauge.
  • Stronger Chassis - The upgraded chassis ensures your R58 arrives in pristine condition!
Cons
  • External PID - The PID is on the side of the machine, attached with a USB cord that could get damaged more easily than if the system was inside the caseworks.
Ease of Use 4
Ease of Care and Maintenance 4
Overall Value for the Money 4
How Does it Compare?

An electronic PID guarantees consistent temperature regulation for each boiler, handy when making a wide variety of beverages in a short time frame. An upgraded rotary pump eliminates back pressure from the boiler and makes this machine plumbable.

Manufacturer Rocket Espresso
Width 12.25 inches
Depth 17.5 inches
Height 16.25 inches
Product Weight (lbs.) 64.0000
Watts 1400W
Programmability No
Case Material Stainless Steel
Boiler Material Brass/Copper
Boiler Volume Steam: 1.7 liter | Group: .58 liter
Reservoir Size 2.5 liter
Solenoid Valve Yes
Steam Wand Type Traditional Only
Cup Warmer Yes
Available Portafilters Non-Pressurized
Boiler Design Double Boiler
Water Sources Convertible - Internal Reservoir or Plumbed in
Auto Shut Off No
Auto On No
Pre-Infusion/Aroma Yes
Material Stainless Steel

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Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine - V2
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A shopper asked: Between rocket r58 v2 and alex duetto 3 which one has more grouphead flexing?, and between the 2 which one would you recommend. Feb 6, 2014
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A shopper asked: I am struggling with deciding on the R58 or the Izzo Alex Duetto 3.0. Can you sell me on the R58? Why should I choose one over the other? Nov 26, 2013
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judgejon asked: Toss up between the Rocket R58 and the La Marzocco GS/3. this would be for home, non-plumbed use.
Really like the fill tray at the front of the GS/3. Filling the R58 could be a problem as it will sit under a cabinet.
Question: does the R58 have any small wheels for pulling out and filling? Seems it would be difficult to pull out to fill the reservoir.
Thanks. The videos with Gail are great!
Jul 22, 2013
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Paul B: No wheels, though you could do something fancy (custom) with a roller shelf etc. but this would further diminish the clearance under the cabinet. Jul 22, 2013
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Darell M: Hi. The R58 does not have wheels, it has rubber feet on the bottom of stainless legs. You'll need approx 10" clear above the top of the R58 to remove the reservoir. Ours is also under a cabinet and we have approx 6" clearance which allows us to fill it with a long spouted jug. Anything less than that would tight. Sure the Marzocco would be nice, but is a lot more $! Good luck either way! Jul 23, 2013
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Andy B: The R58 does not have wheels and the pads under the legs have pretty good grip. At 80lbs sliding the machine in and out from under a cabinet to fill the water tank will get old very very quickly. I started off doing just this knowing I would eventually plumb the machine and I ended up plumbing the R58 after only a week of pulling it in and out from under the cabinet. Jul 22, 2013
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Shawn Y: No, it doesn't have small wheels and I don't think it should simply for safety concern. It's a pretty heavy metal box.
I wouldn't have bought if I don't have head space over it. GS/3 will be a great choice if you don't mind it's look.
Jul 22, 2013
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Will W asked: Hey!

Really thinking about this machine for home use and settings like small events. Seems to be fairly on par with the La Marzocco GS/3, which is surprising with such a drastic difference in price point.

One question I do have concerns pre-infusion. Is this just a built in pre-infusion? Can you control it or set the time yourself?

Any other additional thoughts would be great!
Mar 12, 2013
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Shawn Y: E61 group is built in with preinfusion function but according to SCG you can stretch it by controlling the lever. It takes a few trials to find the position of the lever for it, but I'm not sure it makes a diff. The shots are all good with or without doing it and they taste the same.

I shared all my experience and posted it on coffeegeek dot com (SCG doesn't allow to post a link of a website). You can find it in the forum under "rocket R58 v2 experience sharing". Hope it will help.
Mar 29, 2013
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Teri KStaff: You can do a manual pre-infusion with the Rocket R58 if you move the brew handle into the half-way point. Water will flow from the brew head before the pump engages, allowing you to control pre infusion as long as you'd like. Then when you are ready to brew, simply move the handle up, into the fully open position. The pump engages and you're good to go! Mar 29, 2013
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Brad H: Hey Will, I've had my R58 for about 5 days. You control pre-infusion by lifting lever half way for a few seconds before brewing. Hope this helps, Brad Apr 23, 2013
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A shopper asked: Hi, I am a proud owner of a R58 and I am getting along with the machine very nicely, one nagging concern I have is over advice I was given from the supplier (being outside of the US it wasn't possible to order from SCG). The recommendation was to always leave the machine on unless I wasn't planning to use it for over 10 days i.e. going out of town.
I tend to use the machine in the morning 1-2 cups prior to going to work and then 1-2 cups in the evening when I'm home, more on a weekend around 5-6 cups in a day. What's the general consensus - leave it on or put it on a timer?
Apr 13, 2014
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Michael I K: I bought the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine V2 from Seattle Coffee Gear eight months ago (August of 2013). I have used it daily since then. My usage is almost exactly as you described yours tends to be. It has been on a heavy duty timer from day one to both save energy and eliminate the problem of an electrical malfunction while I am away at work. I have no problems to report so far by using the timer. I am very sorry you could not order from Seattle Coffee Gear. It is a super company to buy from. I was so impressed with them from the Rocket purchase that today, when my old Breville grinder gave out, I immediately ordered a new ceramic burr grinder from them. Apr 14, 2014
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Bonnie W: I have been using "prosumer" class espresso machines for about eight years and have always left them on 24/7. One argument is that heating and cooling from turning it on and off causes expansion and contraction that can stress seals and metal parts. What I can tell you is that I've never seen a failure that I would attribute to running the espresso machine 24/7, e.g heating elements, relays, seals, etc. Maybe the group head gasket which tend to get hard and crack but that is after many months, and that is simply a wear part you can expect to replace regularly anyway. So I cast my vote for leaving it on. Apr 14, 2014
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Paul B: Mine's on a timer, haven't had any problems. I feel like the only reason to to pick a timer over no timer is to save energy. The only other thing to consider is that the machine should be on at least a half hour before everything reaches steady state (consistency).

The argument that starting the machine up from cold more times than letting the boilers constantly cycle is somehow better or worse doesn't make sense to me.
Apr 14, 2014
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Sherry B: Personally I do not like the idea of leaving the machine on continuously. I think the machine needs to be on at least 45 minutes prior to first use. I turn mine off at noon, and on again about 8am. I do not use a timer, though that does seem convenient. I think leaving the machine on continuously is a waste of energy. I have no idea about component lifespan with continuous-on, vs, many on-off cycles. Use a timer. Apr 14, 2014
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jack m: I have had my R58 V2 for three weeks now. I had the same concern that you do.

I turn the machine on first thing in the morning when I awake and within 15 to 20 minutes it hot enough to steam and brew. I just run water through the brew head to warm it up and everything goes perfectly. So far it's been a great machine.
Apr 16, 2014
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martin r: We too recommend that you leave it on. What can happen is the valves may not seat properly with constant heating and cooling. We have also found that what calcium that is in your water tends to collect when there is a temperature change, thus increasing the possibility to a valve sticking open. Apr 14, 2014
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William C: I have 1 - 2 cups a day on my R58. I have had my machine for about 6 months. My practice has been to turn the machine on first thing in the morning and then turn it off after I am through. I have not seen any negative impact to operating it in this manner. Apr 14, 2014
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Elizabeth F: I turn mine off when not in use. I think the use of a timer is a great idea. To me it's a waste to keep it on. Turning it off and on has not created any issues for me.

Liz
Apr 14, 2014
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John C: We turn ours on for a few hours in the morning and then turn it off until the next day. Heats up quickly. Works great. Apr 14, 2014
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Jon M: We use our R58 roughly as you described, over a year, on a timer, with no problems. Apr 15, 2014
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ismendia m: I keep it on at all times, unless I don't plan on using it for a few days. Apr 14, 2014
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Michael D: I turn mine off everyday. Apr 14, 2014
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A shopper asked: Can the feet on the R58 be removed? i currently own a Silvia and was wanting to upgrade. my only issue is we just had our kitchen remodeled and i'm fearful that it won't fit under the upper cabinet? Nov 17, 2013
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Andy B: Technically yes, they are able to be unscrewed like furniture legs. Though the machine wouldn't work without legs as the bottom is not flat, the drain for the drip train and the water connection for hard plumbing extend out on the bottom. I have the machine on our counter under our upper cabinets and it is a pretty tight fit (16 7/16" from counter to bottom of cabinet) but works well. I hard plumbed the machine so I do not need to move it in and out all the time to fill the water reservoir, which with the machines hefty weight and tight fit, was very inconvenient. Nov 20, 2013
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Darell M: Technically you can (they simply unscrew) but the remaining base is not completely flat (there are five bolt heads and the power lead protruding from the base). Hence I don't believe it would be stable. I have ours on a counter with a cabinet over it. We have 22" clearance which is just enough to remove the water carrier (or pour water into it from a long-nosed jug). We've had ours for five months now and it's awesome! Thanks SCG Nov 18, 2013
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Paul B: They can be removed, but the most clearance u could possibly gain is about a half inch. The power cord comes straight out of the bottom. there are also a number of bolts including a Brew pressure adjustment that protrude from the bottom. It also appears that there may be some heat transfer out of the bottom (one of the pieces is perforated). So if the feet were 2" You'd still need to put something there that was 1.5" for example. Nov 18, 2013
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William C: I do not believe you could do that. While not clear in the photo, there is a subset of the frame that extends below the machine, the controller connects to one side of this extension The machine's cord comes out of the bottom of the extension. Removing the feet would cause the machine to rest on the cord, making it unstable. You could leave off the railing on the top and that would give you a bit more clearance. Nov 18, 2013
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Jon M: No. you wouldn't want to remove the feet, the machine has the power cord, adjustment screws, ect underneath and wouldn't be stable. The R58 measures 15.25" without the cup rack, 16.5" with the cup rack.
The other concern, if you have the machine under a cabinet, you will want to plumb it in, you couldn't get to the reservoir otherwise.
Nov 18, 2013
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Michael D: You don't want to take the feet off because the power cord comes from directly under the machine. The Rocket stands about 16 1/4" and the space between standard kitchen cabinets are about 18". Mine fits under the cabinets with no problem. Nov 18, 2013
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Veronica V: YES Nov 24, 2013
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Shawn Y: No Nov 23, 2013
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Claudia B asked: I've only had this machine for 2 days and I absolutely LOVE IT!!

My question is, what should be the proper ritual to making myself a latte every morning? My biggest questions are around cleaning, but here's what I gather so far. Any advice on something I'm missing or something I'm doing that is not necessary would be greatly appreciated!!

1. Make sure there is enough water in the water tank
2. Turn machine on, wait 30-45 minutes
3. Run hot water through portafilter (manual says 1 cup? Do I do this every time??)
4. Pour milk into frothing pitcher (ice cold)
5. Let a little steam out of the steam wand
6. Froth milk and set aside
7. Let a little more steam out of the steam wand and wipe clean
8. Fill portafilter with coffee, tamp, put in machine
9. Lift lever half way for a few seconds, then all the way
10. Watch my espresso being poured (time it, 20-30 seconds for 2 oz), close leve
11. Remove portafilter, dump hockey puck

Cleaning... (this is where i'm most confused about the best way to keep my machine clean)

12. Do I place portafilter back into the machine and run water through it each time?
13. Remove basket from portafilter with tool and wash/clean each separately
14. Do I remove the basket (not sure what this is called, sorry) inside the machine with the rubber ring each time after I make coffee to clean?

The reason I ask about the cleaning is because I found grounds in my portafilter after I had cleaned it and placed it back in the machine from the previous use. I had NOT removed the upper basket/rubber ring after previous use. When I did that, I found grounds stuck around the ring, etc. So should I clean that everyday? Every time?

Thanks so much!
Dec 18, 2013
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Teri KStaff: Hi Claudia,

It sounds like everything you're doing is just about right! You don't need to run an entire cup of water through the portafilter each time, and just a little bit for a cooling flush. As far as cleaning, you do not need to remove the brew head gasket (that rubber ring) and brew head screen each time you brew. You can run some water through the brew head and/or rub a clean rag around the edge of the brew head to remove excess grounds after each brew. We also recommend back flushing and descaling regularly. I have included a few links to pages that outline those processes, and we recommend back flushing once every 1-2 weeks, and descaling this heat exchanger once every 2-3 months depending on how hard your water is. Hope this helps!

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/coffee-101/infographics/guide-to-backflushing

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/coffee-101/infographics/guide-to-descaling

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/coffee-101/infographics
Dec 19, 2013
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Claudia B: Which of your products do you recommend to use for backflushing? I was looking at the Full Circle tablets. I saw one of the notes where you mention the Coffee Equipment tablets are older than the Espresso tablets. Does that mean I should purchase the newer ones? And is that the best one for THIS machine? Looks like the Cafiza has a slightly higher gram per tablet (as mentioned in one of your videos). Which of those 3 are best for the Rocket? Jan 10, 2014
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Teri KStaff: Really any of these products will work fine. I tend to use powder because measuring a 1/2 teaspoon out is not a huge hassle, and the price is much lower than the tablets. The Full Circle products are an environmentally option, and for a product in their line check out the Full Circle Coffee Equipment Cleaning Powder.

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/cafiza-espresso-machine-cleaner-powder-20-oz

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/full-circle-coffee-equipment-cleaning-powder Jan 11, 2014
Claudia B: This is perfect! Just ordered the Full Circle Cleaning Powder and Milk Cleaner (along with the Dezcal descaler packets). I'll take a look at the manual, but am I right in reading your response that I should use 1/2 a teaspoon of the cleaning powder for each time I backflush? I saw in your videos to use two packets of the Dezcal packets for descaling in the Rocket. Jan 13, 2014
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Teri KStaff: That is correct- 1/2 teaspoon loose powder for back flushing, and 2 packets of Dezcal to descale a machine as large as the Rocket. Jan 13, 2014
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A shopper asked: I've read a bottomless portafilter is included with a kit for this machine. Is this still true? Jun 20, 2013
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Teri KStaff: No, unfortunately the R 58 comes with the single and double spout portafilter and baskets, but the bottomless portafilter and triple basket is a separate purchase, and can be found at the link below:

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/58mm-bottomless-portafilter-for-rocket-giotto-and-rocket-cellini-models
Jun 20, 2013
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Claudia B: What is the purpose of using a bottomless portafilter? Dec 18, 2013
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Teri KStaff: There are a few advantages to using a bottomless portafilter. A bottomless portafilter generally offers a triple sized basket for triple shots (3 ounces). The Rocket Bottomless includes this basket but not all bottomless portafilters do. There is also an argument that you get better flavor from a bottomless, as there is less metal for the liquid to travel through during extraction. Finally, a bottomless allows you to check the flow better during extraction to ensure that you've tamped evenly, as all you see under the bottomless is the underside of your basket, and liquid should flow in one even stream from the center. Hope this clarifies! Dec 20, 2013
Claudia B: It does! Thank you! Jan 10, 2014
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A shopper asked: What is the height of the grouphead to the drip tray,also the distance from the double spout portafilter to the drip tray? Feb 16, 2014
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Teri KStaff: On the Rocket R58, from the brew head to the drip tray the height is 5 3/4 inches, and 3 1/2 with the double spout portafilter attached. Feb 17, 2014
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A shopper asked: Is there a way to have the machine warn me about the water level before pouring a shot? It's really my only complaint with this machine. The light blinks just as the machine stops running water and then I have to start all over refilling the portafilter which wastes coffee and time :( . Would be great to know the water level is low before it's out. Thanks! Feb 15, 2014
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Teri KStaff: No, unfortunately there is not an indicator for a low level of water, just that blinking light to indicate when your Rocket R58 is out of water. Other than checking the tank before you brew your shot, I don't have a recommendation for any warning for this ahead of time, unfortunately. Feb 17, 2014
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A shopper asked: When mounting the pf, is there flexing in the grouphead at all if so how much? I heard you cant brew and steam at the same time with 15amp? Feb 6, 2014
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Teri KStaff: The brew head gasket is stiff at first on the Rocket R58, and like any will wear in over time. This will reduce any flexing that you might see at first in the brew head but any at all is minimal. You can absolutely brew and steam at the same time even using this machine on 15 amps. Feb 6, 2014
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Marlon A. asked: Could this machine be used for small catering events or for say a small business? Nov 6, 2013
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Teri KStaff: No, this machine is not commercially rated, and so I would not recommend it for commercial or business use. For a commercially rated machine in a similar price point, check out the Rancilio Epoca at the link below:

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/rancilio-epoca-st-semi-automatic-commercial-espresso-machine-1-group-tank
Nov 9, 2013
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A shopper asked: How long do Rocket machines take to warm up? The things I have read online have a wide variance - anywhere from 10 to 45 minutes. Oct 7, 2013
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Teri KStaff: The reason that you will read such a variance on heat up times with this Rocket R58, or any similar large, E-61 brewhead machine, is because the machine will be hot in the boiler before the brewhead is hot. So the machine may look "ready to brew" on a PID or boiler gauge, but both the metal at the brewhead and portafilter will be cold. Therefore, if you brew at this point, you will draw nice hot espresso through an ice-cold portafilter and dramatically alter things! For this reason, we suggest letting most machines heat up for about 30 minutes with the portafilter attached for best results. Hope this helps clarify! Oct 10, 2013
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Michael B asked: Would this machine be a good choice for a restaurant bar area. Concern is speed and reliability making up to 100 coffees
a day. Advice?
Thanks!
Jul 23, 2013
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Teri KStaff: No, unfortunately this is not a commercially rated machine, and so you will void the warranty if you use it in that setting. For a restaurant, you'd need something like the Rancilio Epoca, and I've included a link below. I would suggest looking for something that is NSF rated, and start by looking at the Cafe tab on our website. Feel free to give us a call to talk about commercial machines if you have any other questions!

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/rancilio-epoca-st-semi-automatic-commercial-espresso-machine-1-group-tank
Jul 23, 2013
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A shopper asked: Purchased the Rocket V58 Dual Broiler and am having trouble figuring out how to hard plumb it. What size water tube must be plumbed into the Rocket and what size drain tube attaches to the unit? Thank you! Apr 15, 2014
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Richard H asked: What is the volume of a double espresso in ml, cl or oz? Jun 11, 2013
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Teri KStaff: A double shot of espresso is 2 ounces of liquid, extracted in 20-30 seconds, when tamped with 30# of pressure. Jun 12, 2013
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Warranty Information for the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine

What it Covers:

Rocket Espresso machines

Length: 2 Years
Who Supports the Warranty: Seattle Coffee Gear
Warranty Contact Information: 866-372-4734 or email us at warranty@seattlecoffeegear.com
Notes: Read more about Seattle Coffee Gear's Warranty coverage.
Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? Yes
Can SCG Repair? Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

Caring for the Rocket R58 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine

  • Descale every two to three months. We recommend using Dezcal.
  • Clean the brew gasket daily with a cleaning brush.
  • Soap out water tank and drip tray every few days.
  • Perform backflush routine daily and clean the filter basket each week.
  • Keep the stainless-steel casing shiny with a microfiber cloth.

User Manuals for your Rocket Dual Boiler R58 Espresso Machine


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First observation, this thing is a work of art. It is beautiful. Over the years I've owned several quality machines, including a La Pavoni Manual, a Rancilio Rocky, an Andreja Premium, and an Izzo Duetto Dual Boiler. This is hands down the best of all of them. It is very easy to make a great shot of espresso in this machine, and it quickly produces perfectly frothed micro-foam with its Naval Boiler facsimile powerhouse of a Service boiler. It far more forgiving of tamp, grind and other parameters than the other machines I have owned. It is hard to NOT get a good shot. I can train a neophyte to pull a good shot in 5 minutes. When you get the grind right, the amount of coffee correct and the tamp correctly performed, you will almost always get a "God Shot". Very consistent. No flushing, no waiting, just keep pulling shots.

I keep the PID controller connected, and monitor the recovery until I get a good feel for the machine. The machine's brew boiler recovery time is exceptionally fast, and is about 15-20 seconds. Nothing like a 1400 Watt heating element. That's less time than it takes to knock out your portafilter grounds and then refill it. Because it is 15 amp only machine, with brew boiler priority over the two boilers, it has a minor quirk. One boiler can run at a time, but they are quickly switched on and off by an internal microprocessor to maintain temperature stability, and to keep the total instantaneous current load below 15 amps. You can steam milk first, and go right into brewing coffee, as the brew boiler gets priority from the machines's internal Microprocessor. If you choose to pull your shots first, pause for about 30-45 seconds before you steam milk. That gives the machine time to recover the brew boiler temperature, at which time it switches the Steaming boiler back on line. If you don't wait, you will run out of steam midway through steaming your milk. Once again, monitor the PID controller and wait for the default display of the brew Boiler to reach its preset temperature. It's set at 105C at the factory. That a good for a dark roast, but I use Lavazza Top Class, a medium roast, and prefer a setting of 106C. My experience and preference is higher Brew temps for lighter roasts and vice versa. Anyway, it recovers quickly, and you're off to steaming your milk.

It makes a lot of steam. I switched the tip from the 1.5mm holed tip to the provided 1.2mm holed tip. A small crescent wrench works well. It will heat a small carafe of milk a little too quickly to make good foam with the larger tip. For larger quantities, say 16 ounces + when you're making multiple lattes, use the larger 1.5mm tip. For best results and to avoid overly frothy milk, Don't angle the tip at first, and keep it aligned vertically just below the milk's surface, allowing a small hiss of air to be injected into the milk, until the temp is between 100-110F, then submerge the tip at an Angle of about 15-30 degrees, and let the milk swirl until it's about 150-155F. No more than 160F to avoid scalded milk.

Is this machine better than a single boiler or a single boiler hear exchange machine? Yes, way better. It is far superior to my Andreja Premium, which I've owned for 10 years. It is far better than my 1st generation Izzo Duetto, which I thought that machine was heavily flawed and unreliable. That's why it's now a 3rd Gen Machine. I understand the newest version of the Izzo Duetto rocks, but it still suffers from lack of cup clearance between the brew head and drain tray.

Expensive yes, but ITS WORTH IT! Did I mention it's very beautiful sitting on your counter!

(Posted on 2/8/14)

Great Machine Overall. Pay attention to plumbing!

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One quick bit of autobiography...this is my third "Prosumer" class espresso machine in seven years. My first love, an Isomac Tea, eventually replaced with the rotary/plumbed Quickmill Vetrano and now the dual boiler/PID Rocket R58.

Pros:

External controller - I don't intend to fiddle with it much except to adjust the temp for new coffee blends and occasionally turn on the steam boiler, so I like the fact that the classic styling is not ruined with a glaring digital display. One of the main reasons I picked it over other PID controlled machines, including the Vetrano 2B

Switchable Steam boiler - 90 percent of the time this machine is used for espresso but I do make milk drinks for visitors and the kids, so I like that I can turn that on and off. This is another of the deciding factors for me. FYI the time from cold to full steam is about 6 minutes.

Easily removable drip tray - Easy to remove and clean and the magnets ensure that it stays in place.

Overall aesthetic - I just really like the looks of the cup rail. It looks both elegant and sturdy, and looks like something from a professional machine. It's a petty thing but for some reason it stands out for me. The gauges are large and readable but not out of place. Little things like the real screwed on name plates, where most machines in its class have stickers, and the disk covering the expansion valve drain. And once again no glaring PID display.

Quality accessories - The portafilters and tamper that came with the machine are better quality than those provided with the other machines I've owned. The included smaller hole steam tip was a nice touch.

Cons:

Loud - For a rotary pump machine it is suprisingly loud. It has a buzzy sort of sound that seems like it might be from parts vibrating together. In addition the pump is just louder than it was on my first generation Vetrano, and has a whine when it comes up to the full 9 bar pressure. It's not horrendous but not what I expect from a rotary pump machine. I would almost knock a quality star from it for that.

Drip tray size is ridiculous - It is so shallow front to back that if you don't have a portafilter in the group you WILL have water everywhere, for example when you are cleaning the group. Of the three machines I've owned, it is the worst by far. In addition it is pretty shallow, if you are not plumbing the drain you'll be dumping it a lot (but if you're a neatnik that might not be a bad thing).

Controller connection - It is described on this site as a USB connection, I wish it was. It is actually a 25 pin serial connection that can be tricky to connect if you are not looking directly at it, and if you're a ham handed person you could potentially bend pins.

British Plumbing fittings - This is a real gotcha! The water fitting on the machine and on both ends of the supplied hose are a British fitting. You are simply not going to connect this with anything in your house without an adapter, and you will not find one at the local hardware store. One can be purchased from Seattle Coffee Gear separately. My only knock against SCG. Some sort of adapter to US standard plumbing fitting could only cost a few bucks at cost, pitch one in the box SGC! I was really frustrated when I found this out and had to wait for one to be mailed. To their credit SGC did send an adapter out for free, but it would have saved me some time and frustration if they had just done that up front. Good thing it has a tank!

Overall Impressions:

I am not an expert on milk drinks but I found that using the included optional steam tip did make it easier to froth smaller amounts of milk, which is all I ever do, and it seems to have more than enough steam power.

Overall I love this machine and I'm happy with the purchase. It looks great, and the build quality seems excellent. Most importantly, it makes a great espresso. I would definitely buy it again and would recommend it to others. Even with it's flaws, I think it is a five star machine.

(Posted on 2/7/14)

Very nice machine

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Got this a couple weeks back. Due to traveling, I've had about a week to get dialed in. At this point, I'm very happy with my Cappuccino (milk covers a number of sins) and getting closer on my Espresso

In short, really like the machine. The build is very solid. The valves for steam and hot water are very positive - no cranking down hard to close. And, most importantly, the temp and pressure are always consistent. So any 'defects' are my technique as this machine really seems to be able to make a great cup.

I put the machine slightly low on price rating for only one reason - I suspect a cheaper machine could make just as good a shot. However, the build quality and design are probably what you are paying for and those seem worth it if you've got the cash.

One minor complaint ... Rocket claims the machine was set at 9bar out of the factory. Maybe it was, but it wasn't set there when it got to my house. My first shots were barely getting to 7bar. Now I'm one of those geeky engineer types so I was pretty sure I could figure out how this thing should work and, even with the blind basket in the portafilter, it couldn't get past 7.5bar. So I pulled out my tools. Turned out the locking nut on the pump adjustment under the machine was barely tight. So, either they never got it set or they didn't lock it down and things moved (not sure I buy that). Anyway, a few 'turns and tests' later and I've got it dialed in (actually, may be a little high but close enough). If you're not handy, this might be a bit of a pain. So, if you get one, check the pump pressure. On the upside, the adjustment is pretty easy to make.

All in all though, great machine. Consistent performance. Never have to wait for hot water, steam or a pull. With that plus the build quality, I would recommend this to others.

(Posted on 12/22/13)

High quality, serious espresso machine with a few flaws

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Pros: 1. Heavy and solid. One doesn't have to hold the machine to install the portafilter for extraction. 2. Steam, water, and group-head valves operate very smoothly. 3. Very nice warming tray - cups warm and ready to go. 4. Quiet pump.

Cons: 1. Drip tray too small - one is constantly cleaning up spillage due to too small a surface area for normal extraction procedures. 2. Absence of reservoir gauge. 3. Absence of timer clock. 4. I'm still having trouble getting a nice, dry "puck" with extractions. 5. Configuration of steam wand, water wand, group-head and lever results in crowded ergonomics - one has to carefully negotiate a path to the lever to initiate an extraction.

(Posted on 12/5/13)

Great Machine

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I've owned this machine for 8 months and use it everyday. It works as advertised. It makes great espresso's, lattes and just about anything else you would want to create with it.

Bottom line is you get what you pay for and I wouldn't hesitate to buy this machine again.

(Posted on 11/18/13)

Just buy it.

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I could have easily talked myself out of buying this machine. I'm so glad I didn't. It's quite simply makes the best tasting espresso I've ever had. Any complaints are sadly on me, not the machine. Just buy one and smile.

Oh - and a plug for SCG - Great people, great service.

(Posted on 11/1/13)

Wow!!! What a machine!!

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This is my first and only espresso machine. I tried something that was a few hundred dollars less at first, and was very disappointed. The R58 is amazing. Café Crema is my favorite drink and It took me a while to learn to get decent results. My wife loves Cappuccino and needless to say, it also was quite a task for me to learn to steam milk with good results. That's all learning curve stuff, but the R58 made it a pleasure to learn on. Loads of steam, perfect pressure all the time every time....even when making 1 drink after another. At first I was surprised by the small size of the water boiler, but the recovery time on it is amazing. I opted to plumb the water feed and drain and even though it made the install a bit more complicated, I'm so glad I did. This machine is made with all top of the line commercial components. It's truly a work of art.

(Posted on 5/11/13)

EXCELLENT EXPRESSO MACHINE

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This is Excellent machine... the finish and construction is so beautiful, is like jelewery in our kitchen.
we are very happy.
The ROCKET R 58 is like a Ferrari strong and powerful
vs with (Expobar Brewtus IV-R) is 100% diferency.

Thank you so much Seattlecoffeegear excellent service....
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Excelente maquina de cafe, el acabado y la construccion es hermosa, es una joya en nuestra cocina.
estamos muy contentos.
The ROCKET R58 es como un Ferrari fuerte y poderoso
comparada con (Expobar Brewtus IV-R) es 100% total diferencia.
Muchas gracias Seattlecoffeegear por su excelente servicio.
Veronica V.

(Posted on 4/20/13)

Fantastic machine!

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This is a fantastic machine, it is really solidly built and weighs a ton. The finish is awesome and looks fantastic in our kitchen. During the first few times using the machine I found a puddle of water growing on the counter top under the machine. A quick call to SCG soon determined that the metal pug in the bottom of the drip tray needed to be tightened, doing this cured the problem.

My only question is why the brew head pressure gauge only ever gets to the bottom of the green section of the dial. So what is the rest of the green section needed for?

All I need to do now is to be able to pull great shots consistently and this is down to me.!

(Posted on 4/12/13)

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