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PID Retrofit Kit for Rancilio Silvia with Pre-Infusion - White

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Product Description

This PID controller kit is built with perfecting a single-boiler machine in mind. With the addition of steam temperature control and an extraction timer that can be programmed with pre-infusion, this PID can turn your Rancilio Silvia into a professionally consistent machine. The pre-infusion functionality injects water directly into the espresso grinds to saturate the coffee before actual extraction, ensuring far less variance when the pump flings into full motion.

The steam temperature control allows the boiler temperature to be held between a tighter range during frothing. User operation is the same as regular machine, so there isn't a lot of extra fiddling to figure this PID out. The added consistency is a welcome change, as the most common complaint we hear from Silvia owners is a lack of this consistency.

This kit fits all Silvia models, including the model made after 2009. However, if you have a model V1 or V2 made between 2000 and July 2006, the PID with screw sensor offers better performance.

Please be aware that installing this on your Silvia will void any existing warranties.

How the PID Retrofit Kit Works

Pre-infusion is achieved by pumping a small amount of water into the coffee grinds, then activating the pump for extraction following a few second delay. This will prevent abrupt high pressure on the coffee grinds that can create inconsistency. Overall, this unit takes quite a bit of the guesswork out of the process.

  • The extraction timer contains three segments: pre-infusion, soak, and brew. Each segment can be set with only .1 second variation.
  • When the ">" key is pressed, the controller starts the brewing sequence automatically.
  • The pump can be stopped at any time by pressing the ">" key a second time. This feature allows you to operate the brew pump manually, with the timer as a reference. User can also bypass the timer to use switch on the machine for manual controlling the brewing process.
  • The steam temperature control allows the boiler temperature to be held at tighter range during frothing.
  • User operation is the same as regular machine; no extra buttons are needed for frothing. When the steam switch is turned on, the on/off temperature of the heater is controlled with 1 degree (F or C), as compared with original thermostat's >10°C (or 20°F).
  • With this level of temperature control, you will no longer need to surf the temperature for frothing, because the heater will kick on much sooner than the original thermostat. The on/off temperature can also be adjusted by the user.
How Does it Compare?

Easier on the eyes, this PID now features white digits as opposed to the original red.

Additional Information

Model Number KIT-RSPba-W
Product Weight (lbs.) 0.6000
Material Stainless Steel
Manufacturer Auber Instruments

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Does your shop offer the Rancilio Silvia AND (PID Retrofit Kit for Rancilio Silvia with Temp control, Pre-Infusion and brew timing installed? If so I would think it would be slightly more that the Rancilio Silvia with the standard PID combo you currently offer on the website. So with that in mind, if you do offer the better PID and Silvia installed, with is the price?

Thanks,

G Breaux
A shopper on Jul 2, 2014
Best Answer: The Silvia with PID installed utilizes this PID with Pre-infusion, so you are able to adjust pre infusion, shot timing and temperature.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Jul 2, 2014
Hi,
I have the pid installed on My Silvia and have thought about the pre-infusion.. Since I primary doing single shots with about 12g for each shot, what pre-infusion time is recomended? And what soak time?
I beleive default setting is for a double shot. Concider it was a bit too long..

Thanks!
Ollie on Jan 29, 2015
Best Answer: Yes, I think the default is for a double shot. The answer to your question depends a lot on how it tastes better for you, so you need to spend some time setting up to your taste and your other settings. The idea is to have some pressure initially and the coffee should not drip at all. The soak time doesn't need to be long: perhaps the default is good for 12g.
Reply · Report · Rui P on Feb 2, 2015
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Is there a "manual" mode for the PID where I can still use it to regulate the temperature, but brew manually (i.e. without the pre-infusion, delay, and timed extraction)? Just purchased the kit from SCG and having it locally installed. Excited to give it a whirl.
Christopher L on Mar 28, 2016
Best Answer: I contacted the manufacturer of the PID and provided proof of purchase. Then they emailed the manual with the instructions for programming the PID. It was pretty straight forward to set the times for the different parts of the brew cycle.
Reply · Report · Janet C on May 14, 2016
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I have a Rancilio Silvia v3 (not purchased at SCG). If I send it to you, can you retrofit the Auber PID to it? Cost? If no, do you know of anyone in the Philadelphia area who can perform this service?
Brian A on Aug 16, 2014
Best Answer: Yes, we can install a PID on your Silvia, however the fee is the cost of the PID (currently $235), plus a $100 install fee, plus the shipping both ways. This can quickly add up to about half or more of your machine cost, unfortunately! There may be someone local to you that can work on Rancilio and would possibly install a PID for you, or you may feel comfortable doing the install yourself. We have instructions for installing the V3 Preinfusion PID under the Resources tab on the PID page, so I might check this out first. Otherwise we can install it here if you submit a repair request, but we do not have lists of other service centers across the US. Hope this info helps!

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/service/repairs
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Aug 18, 2014
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I can't seem to find any instructions for setting the shot timer. How do I do that?
Eric B on Jul 3, 2014
Best Answer: The programming for the PID on the Silvia is easiest to adjust using the video Gail and Kat put together below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mk7S-AcI2M

Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Jul 3, 2014
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Am I able to mount this kit on the side of the silvia or does it have to go near the GH?
A shopper on Mar 2, 2016
Best Answer: Yes you can, but why? It fits perfectly, and elegantly, between the wand and group head. The temperature readings are from sensors that are inside the machine so the group head's temperature does not effect the readings nor the operation of the PID. I mounted mine with little clearance but not touching the group head. It works great! Follow the enclosed instructions, step by step, and it is easy to install. Once you adjust your grind for the perfect shot, you will not only love the espresso, but also the convenience of pushing a single button for a perfect shot every time.
Reply · Report · Bob O on Mar 6, 2016
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Once the PID is installed, how does the the steaming process work? Do I just turn on the steaming function as usual and wait for it to come up to temp (using PID as the indicator) or is there something else I have to do?
Christopher L on Mar 28, 2016
Best Answer: Christopher,
The way I use my PID, is to prepare portafilter with tamped coffee, run a shot of water into my cup to heat cup, turn off brew switch and turn on steam switch. The steam temperature will come up very fast. When it gets to about 268 degrees, bleed off water and start steaming. The temperature will continue to rise in the boiler to create plenty of steam. If you wait until it reaches max temperature then you will be steaming as the temperature is decreasing, which I don't recommend. Make sure to run water out of nozzle to refill boiler and you are now ready to pull shots. I love the PID on my Rancillio Silvia.
Reply · Report · GUY S on Mar 28, 2016
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Can the PID for the Rancilio Silvia be installed by me or is it mandatory that it be done by a service person?
Don H on May 5, 2016
Best Answer: Don,

I installed my PID with a little help from wife. While I connected the wires to the appropriate connections my wife verified each step. I read the instructions two to three times before I started. I have a background hobby of assembling and wiring electronics, so I felt comfortable. It took me about 3 hours to complete.
If I knew the time was so long to complete the task I may have found someone to assemble it for me, however the persons I would have asked were busy at the time. I can tell you it is worth the time and money for the PID, I have had very good and consistent expresso and cappuccino.

Take your time and you will be fine.
Reply · Report · Jim B on May 14, 2016
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I purchased the Auberins PID with infusion kit. On page 12 of instructions, after connection one end of the green wire of the controller box grounding wires to the boiler, where do you connect the other end with the loop? Please help asap!!!!
A shopper on Sep 3, 2014
Best Answer: See page 21. You feed it through the front and attach it to the PID (later). It has been a while since I performed this installation but I am pretty sure that I am correct.
Reply · Report · Dannie S on Sep 3, 2014
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Can the PID LED be set to show the temperature in Celsius? Thank you!
Christopher B on Aug 29, 2015
Best Answer: To answer your original question, it can be changed to Celsius but it is quite difficult to do and you will need to contact Auber directly to do so. They can be reached at: Tech support: info@auberins.com
404-926-6098,
770-569-8420,
404-983-8228
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Sep 12, 2015
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If I puchase the package of Rancillio Silvia with PID, does that mean SCG will pre-install the PID and it is ready to use?
Tuan Anh N on Nov 29, 2015
Best Answer: Yes, the SCG team installs before shipping to you.
Reply · Report · Samantha BStaff on Nov 29, 2015
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Will this kit work on 220volt models?
Larry K on Sep 28, 2015
Best Answer: No, unfortunately this is designed for 110V models. As the wiring requirements will be different, you'll want to choose a PID kit that will work with this higher voltage. We do not carry a PID that will work with 220V since we don't carry machines that it would work with, sorry!
Reply · Report · Miranda GStaff on Oct 6, 2015
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If I choose to get the Silvia with the PID installed, is there a way to turn it off if I would like to use it without the PID?
jwhit on Jul 31, 2015
Best Answer: Yes, you can use the machine without the PID pre-infusion and timer function
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Aug 8, 2015
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Can you send it to Jakarta Indonesia?
Ciputra S on Jun 28, 2015
Best Answer: No, I'm sorry, we currently do not ship Internationally
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Jul 17, 2015
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Reviewer under "Review" here warns to avoid pre-infusion function because it also activates solenoid valve (during pause). Would appreciate your opinion/ experience on this?
A shopper on Jun 22, 2015
Best Answer: When the solenoid activates it doesn't suck water out. The water in the portafilter is under pressure and the solenoid gives it another path to escape to, so there might be some water that leaks out, but I doubt theres enough pressure built up for all the water too come rushing out!!! Also, crema is not being produced during the pre-infusion so there's no way for crema to end up in the drip tray.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Aug 13, 2015
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Is this the same kit that is installed on the Rancillio Silvia with PID that you sell?
Rsa7777 on May 25, 2015
Best Answer: Yes
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Jun 10, 2015
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Can this kit by adapted to the Isomac Venus? If so, is any modification or additional parts needed?
A shopper on Apr 5, 2015
Best Answer: It's quite possible, but we have no way of knowing for sure since we do not work with the Isomac Venus. Your best bet is to contact Auber Instruments directly as they manufacture the PID kit. http://www.auberins.com
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 10, 2015
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Do you know if the KIt is also suitable for 220V power source Silvia?
A shopper on Mar 3, 2015
Best Answer: No, sorry, it is only for 110V. We do not carry PIDs for 220V.
Reply · Report · Miranda GStaff on Mar 3, 2015
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Is it possible to switch between Fahrenheit and Celcius, or is that a decision you have to make when purchasing?
Patrick G on Dec 30, 2014
Best Answer: I believe that it's possible to switch to Celsius, but that is not something that we can guide you through, as we don't have any instructions to complete this procedure. We purchase and sell the PIDs already configured in Fahrenheit.
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Dec 30, 2014
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I have number 0603 on my Rancilio Silvia. Can I get a PID?
Leslie on Dec 30, 2014
Best Answer: You can use this PID on any version of the Rancilio Silvia, even if it's the older models.
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Dec 31, 2014
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What does PID stand for?
A shopper on Nov 20, 2014
Best Answer: PID stands for PID Proportional Integral Derivative. This function allows your temperature to remain controlled in the Silvia instead of fluctuating in a range of about 15 degrees.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Nov 21, 2014
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Resources

User Manuals for your Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

Rancilio Silvia Version 3 Espresso Machine User Manual


Instructions for your PID

Silvia with PID Start Up Guide

Silvia with PID Installation Guide

Silvia with PID Operation Guide


Articles Featuring the Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

Coffee 101: How to Steam & Brew on the Rancilio Silvia


Videos Featuring the Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

Why Does My Silvia Have Two Water Tubes?

Rancilio Silvia Maintenance

Rancilio Silvia Tune-Up Kit

Reviews

Well worth itReview by T Brady
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The PID works well and has improved my shots. I was mostly happy with surfing, but the PID has taken them up in quality - not dramatically but certainly noticeably. No special skills are required to install and the installation time was about 45 minutes or so (make sure you use the correct instructions and operational manual, on the SCG website). Whether you like pre-infusion or not, the parameters are easy to change and there is a SCG video on the topic. One added benefit is that the timing of your shot can be controlled such that the pump shuts off after 1oz or whatever it is that you prefer to pull. The device is attractive. Overall, I would recommend this kit. (Posted on 1/26/2015)
A must-have if you're already spending $$$ with the SilviaReview by A. Da Costa
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After spending almost $700 on a Silvia, you don't want to be temperature-surfing and playing tricks with the machine to get consistent shots. Just get a PID and focus on other things that matter to get a good shot.

A couple of negatives about the PID though:
1- It comes with instructions on how to change it to Celsius, which I did. The problem is that the temperature thresholds (brew and steam set points) do not convert units automatically. This is a great design flaw in my opinion. You could actually burn your heating element if you don't notice it right away. The default set point for brew is 221, which is fine for Fahrenheit, but once you change the units to Celsius, it'll try and heat your boiler to 221 C, which is 430 F!!! You also need to change the steam temperatures (two settings, on/off). The instructions don't mention anything about this.

2- It comes with the option to set a pre-infusion time. Do not use pre-infusion or it'll produce a worse shot. I checked out the electrical diagram on Auber's website and now I understand what the problem is. The way the relay used to control the pump is hooked up is such that the 3-way solenoid valve is also switched to absorb over-pressure from the brew head once the pump stops. In other words, after a few seconds of pre-infusion, the pump will stop for the delay before the full shot and all the delicious crema that's starting to form in your portafilter will be sucked out to your drip tray!!! Design flaw! They should have used a separate relay for the solenoid valve so that it only sucks the moisture out of your portafilter when you finish pulling the shot, and not during your wait-time after the pre-infusion. (Posted on 11/16/2014)

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