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Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine and Baratza Grinder Package

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Product Description

The Rancilio Silvia performs the best when it's paired with a high quality burr grinder. You need one that goes fine enough for espresso and also provides you with an even coffee particle size so you can pull consistently great shots.

Grinder Options

  • The Baratza Virtuoso is a great grinder for anyone looking to make the next jump in espresso creation at home.
  • The Baratza Preciso is a great step forward in the Baratza line, with precision settings now accessible.
  • The Baratza Vario with Metal Portaholder is a Cadillac of coffee grinders, with ceramic burrs and micro-adjustments, making it just that much easier to find the perfect shot.

Want More Control?

Add even more consistency to your Rancilio Silvia with the addition of a PID controller. Installed by our own Seattle Coffee Gear tech department before the machine goes out, these units enable you to control the temperature variance on this machine by as little as one degree. Read the full details of these additions here.

Additional Information

Manufacturer Rancilio

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OK I've had very good luck asking questions here so here goes... Any advice, suggestions appreciated. I'm looking to get set up with a grinder and machine for about $1000 but if I REALLY push it I could spend $1400 or so. I'd be doing 4-8 double shot lattes / week and an occasional espresso. I'm looking at the Crossland CC1 and a Vario grinder, a Silva and a Vario, or the Breville 900xl and Breville smart grinder (notice the drop(?) in grinder quality). I'm no expert, but I'm a very quick learner when it comes to things mechanical (I can be a perfectionist when it comes to things like this and enjoy the geek process). I like the build quality of the Silva but that's it's biggest draw for me. Should I be looking at other options like a Pasquini Livietta or Nuova Simonelli Oscar. I've mostly passed them up due to lack of a PID and price to some extent.
CruzIan on Feb 7, 2014
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Hi, I've purchased a Ranchilio Silvia w/ auber PID with the Baratza Vario and a Jennings CJ4000 scale. The best coffee I can get locally is the Kicking Horse and I used to brew awesome shots on my crappy old espresso machine and hand crank grinder with this coffee. I can't brew a shot to save my life with this new set up. I've gone thru 2 bags of coffee back to back with no luck.

I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for this set up with this coffee. What grind settings should I use? Is there a possibility my grinder is stuck? I either seem to choke out the Rancilio, or all the sudden poor way to much liquid when crawling thru the 230 options on this grinder. Its the 'Jack Ass' that I use from Kicking Horse.

Pleeaaase help!:')

I have ;

weighed 18 ounces for my larger bottomless portafilte
gone thru 100's of grind options
always waited 20 minutes for the machine to warm up and warmed up all the gear for it
practiced tamping on a scale to ensure I'm in between 20-30 pounds
tried 16 -20 ounces on somewhat good sized shots relative to creme etc.

I have also switched coffee to bags i've ordered online and had shipped to try to obtain a fresher bean but I end up playing with the 2 bags I order and still having no luck and then going back to the kicking horse.
Con Bee on Oct 28, 2014
Best Answer: I have the same setup for a little more than a year now and I have a friend who had a similar problem to you. First thing I asked him was how fresh was the coffee? He told me it must be fresh because he bought it directly from the shop but after inspecting it, he found out it was stale.

It is extremely difficult to pull a good shot from stale coffee where it usually just gushes how way too fast. And although you may be buying online directly from kicking horse, I don't see anything about how fresh the coffee sent to you is on their website. It is very possible that they roast in bulk and ship on demand.

The fact that you can choke up your machine with too fine a grind setting shows that grinder is probably not the problem. I'd try buying from a different roaster that will send you coffee the day its roasted so you can get the freshest coffee possible. I'm from the US so I don't have too many Canadian roasters so I'll just list the ones that the homebarista forum recommends.

49th Parallel Coffee Roasters, Burnaby, British Columbia
Detour Coffee Roasters, Dundas, Ontario
Discovery Coffee Roasters, Victoria, British Columbia
Fratello Coffee Roasters, Calgary, Alberta
Origins Coffee, Vancouver, BC
Rocanini Coffee Roasters, Vancouver, BC
Saint-Henri Micro-Torréfacteur, Montréal, Quebec
Social Coffee Company, Richmond Hill, Ontario
Transcend Coffee, Edmonton, Alberta

I have to assume that your weighing out grams and not ounces for all those measurements. A good espresso ratio to start with is a 1:2. So whatever you dose out in coffee, your looking for a beverage weight of double that. I have a VST 20 gram basket and I usually like to do a 20 gram dose and pull a shot around 36-38 grams.

Check how much coffee the basket recommends. The stock rancilio baskets are built to use 14grams but you can probably do 15 or 16 if your wish.

Hope this helps!
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The picture shows three different grinders. Which one is actually included in the package?
Andreas R on Dec 6, 2014
Best Answer: It depends on the grinder that you choose. There is a drop-down menu above, where you can choose the Baratza Virtuoso, Preciso, or Vario to combine with the Silvia. Once you choose the grinder, you will see the price automatically correct to the revised pricing depending on the grinder you choose too.
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Dec 9, 2014
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What is a PID controller? What does it do and what does it look like?
A shopper on May 24, 2014
Best Answer: A PID is to adjust temperature to a specific degree and also keep it stable at that temperature. I would suggest reading the article from Kat at the link below for a bit more information regarding what a PID is, as well as checking out the video to see what it looks like.

http://blog.seattlecoffeegear.com/2013/12/23/program-auber-pid-rancilio-silvia/
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on May 26, 2014
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Does the PID Kit option has the pre-infusion feature? Thanks!
gonzo on May 7, 2013
Best Answer: Yes, the Silvia V3 with PID does have pre infusion built in to the Auber PID.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on May 7, 2013
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Resources

Warranty Information for the Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

What it Covers:

Rancilio espresso machines and grinders

Length:

- 1 Year (Silvia & Rocky Grinders)

- 1 Year (Commercial-class machines and grinders)

Who Supports the Warranty: Seattle Coffee Gear
Warranty Contact Information: 866-372-4734 or email us at warranty@seattlecoffeegear.com
Notes:

The Silvia and Rocky are eligible for SCG's standard warranty support and service. Learn more about what's covered.

All other espresso machines and grinders are covered by a limited, commercial-class warranty. For more information on service and support, please discuss with your commercial sales rep.

Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? Yes (Silvia only).
Can SCG Repair? Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

Warranty Information for the Baratza Grinder

What it Covers:

Grinders

Length: 1 Year
Who Supports the Warranty: Baratza
Warranty Contact Information: 877-701-2021
Notes: Baratza has excellent troubleshooting resources on their website. If you're experiencing an issue with your grinder, definitely look here first.
Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? No
Can SCG Repair? Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

Reviews

Best Home Espresso and Grinder Combo Period!Review by Hak
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I purchased the Silvia v3 w/ PID Installed version as it is a Must for Precise Control in temperature and timing.

Also the Grinder I also purchased the Baratza Vario Burr Grinder.

This Combo makes the BEST Espresso and create the same as some of the BEST Coffee Shop can brew...

Owned for over 7 Months now and enjoying every time I brew a cup! (Posted on 3/1/2015)
Great product misleading warrantyReview by David
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I have had my Silvia and Preciso for a while now absolutely love them would recommend them that loves espresso and enjoys an occasional cappuccino.

The Silvia does a great job at turning out espressos and cappuccinos (if you are patience). As others have pointed out it has only one boiler to brew and steam you have to wait a little bit between brewing and steaming for the unit to heat up. I have the PID installed and enjoy the convince of not having to temperature surf I believe it is worth the extra money and the programmed brew cycle is nice as well.

I also have a Moccamaster and a french press and the Preciso does a great job with all of them almost unique in the respect that it can cover such a large grind range well. If you only make espresso I would suggest considering a grinder like the Vario that is better made for finer grinds with its ceramic flat burrs (standard). But from what I read unless you also get the steel burrs (purchased separately) the Vario does not do as good a job for coarser (read drip etc.) grinds.

***My only problem with this combo is that I was denied replacement of the burr holder by Seattle Coffee Gear under the extended warranty as I was told the extended warranty does not cover the grinder something I would have liked to have known at the time of purchase. ***

Additional notes I also have the bottomless portafilter, a calibrated tamper, the Esatto scale, Milk to Perfection steam pitcher, and a programmable timer that I have set to turn the Silvia on an hour before I wake up so it is ready to go as soon as I am up.

I keep my coffee in a 64oz airscape coffee bean canister. And serve in the Bodum double wall glasses from 2oz to 15oz (Posted on 2/24/2015)
Feels like quality... steel burrs are better for general purpose thoughReview by A. Da Costa
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This is an excellent grinder for espresso and with the ceramic burrs you could probably even produce a grind that is fine enough for Turkish. If you're planning to use it for other methods that require coarser grinds, I'd highly recommend purchasing the steel burrs from Baratza's website (or stop by their headquarters if you're from the Seattle area, like I did).

Here's the thing: the ceramic burrs produce a lot of fines. That means that if you're grinding for pour-over or French press, for example, there will be a lot of very small particles that will over-extract and leave that mud-like layer in your filter or even in your coffee if you're using metal filters. I thought the number of fines was unacceptable so I called Baratza and was surprised to find that they were a local company (Seattle area). I stopped by their headquarters and they convinced me to switch the burrs to the steel ones. It only cost me $20 because they took my ceramic ones back and the results were well worth the money. The steel burrs produce almost no fines. VERY consistent results throughout the whole range, from fine to coarse.

The cons of steel burrs (which in my case are not an issue at all):
1- They last for only half as long as ceramic burrs: 500 pounds instead of 1000 pounds of coffee. Who cares? It's going to take me years to go through that much coffee anyways. And for $40, I'll just get new burrs when they wear out.
2- They produce more heat. Not a lot more though. Even the ceramic ones heat up the coffee when you grind really fine in my experience.
3- They don't go fine enough for Turkish. I don't drink Turkish anyways. It goes more than fine enough for espresso with my Silvia so I'm happy. Needs calibration though, which is trivial to do.
(Posted on 11/16/2014)
Quality! Quality! Quality!Review by A. Da Costa
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I'll review the machines separately, but just wanted to say that despite being an expensive package (especially if you get the PID version with the Vario grinder), it's worth if you're serious about your coffee. The package is a good deal because you get a discount for the grinder, in addition to the many gifts like tamper, extended warranty and a bag of fresh coffee.

If you think you'll buy one the grinders in the package at some point in the future, just get the package right now if you can afford. It'll save you $$$ in the long run. (Posted on 11/16/2014)
good grinderReview by joe
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easy to use: especially the ability to grind into the portafilter. (Posted on 6/30/2013)
Silvia proficiency coming alongReview by JC
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The Silvia package is definitely fun to play with (I have used it at least once a day since I got it a couple of weeks ago), although I am seeing some things I would change about it. For example, the wait time between steaming and brewing is a little annoying, so in the future, might consider one with a heat exchanger. Also, the temperature surfing bit, while I am getting better at it, took a while to get used to. I would say the learning curve is steeper than some, but the shots turn out great as does the milk foam, when I get it right, which also seems to be hit or miss. The machine looks nice on the counter, and has a great reputation, so I think it will be a good investment. (Posted on 5/8/2013)
worth the learning curveReview by Dave
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I've been using this combo daily for 4 months now. Well worth the $$ and time spent getting it right. Dialing in the Preciso was easy after making the internal adjustment ( it arrived on the coarsest grind setting....road gravel ) Online step-by-step instructions made it an easy job. Silvia gets the shot done perfectly. I've found big differences in the coffee now... some espressos have a sweet finish that doesn't go off. Others more suited to to a different style of drinking. I did get a thermometer to work out frothing. think it calibrated my eyes to the job. now i can do perfect micro-foam without the cheat. espressos, breve's, cappacinos & my grandaughter's hot chocolate all come out fantastic. (Posted on 3/15/2013)
Learning & Loving & LearningReview by Stan
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Loving my new Rancilio Silva & Baratza but viewing videos is much easier than actually dialing in your unit. I love the videos, don't get me wrong, but either I'm a slow learner (took a pound of coffee to get the grind right) or somethings that look simple are actually slightly harder than they look. But I'm having a blast and yes, I'm getting great shots for latte's and cappos at the proper temp, time, dose size, fresh roast, etc but haven't hit that God shot yet (Posted on 1/25/2013)
Loving Miss Silvia!Review by dandam
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After quite a bit of shopping and hemming and hawing I chose the Rancilio Silvia as my entree into the world of the home barrista. It has been tricky to perfect my grinding and tamping, but the PID control has made the temp and timing worry free. Love the machine. Love the PID. Loved the package deal on the grinder. And loved the support (online and docs that came with the machine) provided by SCG. A worthwhile investment, you won't regret! (Posted on 8/23/2012)
Love my RancilioReview by The Addams Family
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Absolutely love the latest addition to our kitchen. It has been fun learning to use both machines. I am disappointed with the quality control on the Baratza, but my issue is with the manufacturer, not Seattle Coffee Gear, they have been great. When we first used the Baratza, the timer feature did not work. I opened up the machine and found the timer to be in two pieces. It was an easy fix, but quit working altogether two weeks later. The grinder produces consistanly ground coffee and is very easy to use. They clearly put their money into the burrs rather than the timer.
The great coffee that this combo makes is worth the frustration. I'm not willing to give it up to send the grinder back for repairs.

Pros:
Easy To Clean, Easy To Use, Commercial Grade

Cons:
Noisy, Cheap timer on grinder (Posted on 5/8/2012)
Great Package at a Great PriceReview by Sean
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Excellent price for a great starter package, the grinder works surprisingly well, I would highly recommend the Preciso with a PID'd Silvia.

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Great Taste, Easy To Use, Commercial Grade

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(Posted on 5/1/2012)
greate machineReview by ken
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greate machine. very happy with this setup

Pros:
Great Taste, Large Water Container, Quick Brewing, Commercial Grade, Easy To Use, Easy To Clean

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(Posted on 4/14/2012)
Great PackageReview by srhGamer
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I was in between the Silvia and the CC1. I was leaning towards the CC1 even though (IMO) the Silvia was a better machine. I was looking for the "best bang for my buck," and the CC1 has a PID installed for the same price as a stock Silvia. Then I found this package, and it eliminated any price advantage of the CC1.

I couldn't find this specific package anywhere else at the price I paid. Either way, I'm glad I bought it here because SCG's customer service has been top notch.

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Easy To Use, Commercial Grade, Great Taste

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(Posted on 12/14/2011)
Improving the home espressoReview by Mario
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I had substantially upgraded my espressos. Hope to go further with my coffees, lattes, machiattos, etc.

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Quick Brewing, Reliable, Easy To Clean, Easy To Use

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(Posted on 9/23/2010)
ConvienantReview by Lexx
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Make an easy job easier and faster.

Pros:
Easy To Use, Commercial Grade

Cons:
Hard To Clean (Posted on 5/26/2010)
The Peak of YumnessReview by Stephen
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Still getting used to this machine; the Silvia does take some practice; it is both art and skill. After a couple of weeks, my tamp is more consistent and I am developing a better 'dance' re: coordinating frothing with my shots. Overall, a great machine! I am absolutely satisfied with my choice. As far as the Vario grinder is concerned, well, it does a fantastic job. Once I "found" my setting, it never needs a tweek.

Pros:
Great Taste, Commercial Grade, Easy To Clean

Cons:
High learning curve (Posted on 5/25/2010)
EXCELLENT PAIRING!!!Review by Ben Geldreich
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Once you get to know the machine, which I'm still doing it will start producing more consistent shots. Great Value for your dollar!

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Easy To Use, Great Taste, Commercial Grade, Quick Brewing, Easy To Clean, Large Water Container

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Unreliable (Posted on 4/16/2010)
A Great Pair of MachinesReview by Johnnylog
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Never had a good espresso machine before so was delighted at how quickly I was able to get dialed in on high quality espresso drinks with these machines. Perfect for the weekend, entertaining, or a shot in the morning before work. Also helpful were Gail and Kat's videos. Thanks.

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Easy To Use, Commercial Grade, Great Taste, Easy To Clean, Quick Brewing, Large Water Container

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(Posted on 3/24/2010)

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