Sometimes the best just keeps getting better! Rocket has once again exceeded expectations by creating the Giotto Premium Plus with PID. The clear successor to the Giotto Premium Plus V2, this updated model features an integrated PID for a more precise brewing temperature. To maintain its elegant design, Rocket strategically placed the PID controller inside the drip tray. No need to constantly fuss with the temperature! Just set the controller to your ideal brewing temperature, install the drip tray and forget it.
Features & Functionality of the Rocket Espresso Giotto Premium Plus with PID
Dual Pressure Gauges: A barometer for both the steam pump and brew boiler allows you to visibly see the amount of pressure applied while brewing or steaming.
Legendary E-61 Brew Head: This highly sought-after brew head is commercial grade and sure to last.
Pre-Infusion System: Rocket's dual pre-infusion system works to make a smooth shot of espresso with excellent body and crema.
Insulated Boiler: The added insulation works to increase heat retention, reducing wait time between shots.
Heavy Duty Boiler The 1.8 liter boiler is constructed of pure copper and made with two lead free brass end plates. The end plates, plus the added boiler insulation help increase thermal retention.
Cup Rack: Removable cup rack is included and is easily installed. The cup rack can also be left off if you require a little less height on your machine.
Integrated PID: Not so secretly hidden inside the drip tray and available for control over your brewing temperature.
Control Light: Located at the bottom left corner of the machine, this light illuminates green when the machine is on and flashes when the water level is low.
Large Water Reservoir: Via the separate lid, easily access the removable water reservoir without clearing your cups from the cup warmer.
Hot Water: Both the Rocket Giotto & Cellini Premium Plus with PID feature a sturdy hot water wand for instant Americanos or hot chocolate (for the sweet tooth in the house!).
Easy Clean Steam Wand - The internally insulated steam wand makes wiping milk off after frothing a breeze.
Contemporary Design - Rocket’s distinctive design may have you feeling like you’re brewing espresso on a piece of modern art.
Excellent Frothing Power - The Giotto's steam wand froths an ideal consistency for budding baristas to perfect their latte art.
Not Cool Touch - While we love how the steam wand is well insulated so milk doesn't burn on the outside, this does not mean the wand is cool touch. After frothing, be careful not to directly touch the wand as it can be hot.
Stiff Water Tank - The water reservoir is removable, but requires some muscle to detach from the machine.
Celsius Woes - This current PID model only offers celsius as a readable temperature unit on the PID controller. For those forever fahrenheit lovers, there is a nifty conversion chart included with the user manual.
Ease of Use
Ease of Care and Maintenance
Overall Value for the Money
How Does it Compare?
The Rocket Giotto Premium Plus with PID is essentially a Giotto Premium Plus V2, with an integrated PID for temperature control.
Tips and Tricks
What Your PID Is Trying to Tell You:
If your PID display says "off," this also means the heating element is off and will not warm in this mode.
If your PID displays a dot at the bottom right corner, this means the heating element is being powered.
With Cup Rail: 13.0 inches | Without Cup Rail: 13.0 inches
With Cup Rail: 17.0 inches | Without Cup Rail: 17.0 inches
With Cup Rail: 16.5 inches | Without Cup Rail: 15.0 inches
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what more there is to "rethink" We can only answer that the water tank for this Rocket machine is not listed as BPA free. We are not the manufacturer so we do not determine whether or not the water tank is BPA free. From what is understood about BPA, taken from: https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/sya-bpa/ "The degree to which BPA leaches from polycarbonate bottles into liquid may depend more on the temperature of the liquid or bottle, than the age of the container." This shows that BPA leaching happens when the plastic comes into contact with heat, which is what Miranda pointed out. If BPA is a main concern for you and you would rather not have the risk at all, regardless of whether or not it comes into contact with heat, then you may decide that the Rocket machine is not for you since we cannot guarantee that it is BPA free since it is not listed.
Hi, I have been running a gaggia espresso pure and Grinta combo for the last 3-4 years. I am looking for a more stable/ controlable espresso machine like a rocket or alternative E61 machine. Is the Grinta good enough for this higher end gear and what would be the higher you would go to pair with the Grinta?
Best Answer:I have not had the Rocket Giotto too long, but improvement compared with my previous fully automatic is truly amazing. Unlike some other manual machines, where you have to work to get the correct pressure/temperature the Giotto is repeatable cup after cup. Once you determine your grind, shot size, tamp, ..... process you get wonderfully flavored consistent shots of espresso. In a way the Giotto takes the actual brewing process out of the equation and leaves you to work with the other variables that go into making the perfect espresso. In terms of grinder, this is just as important as the brewing, so again if the Grinta gives consistent grind I am sure it will be fine partner to the Giotto.
I'm no expert on grinders. I purchased the Grinta because it seems like a good price-performer. My espresso machine is a Nuova Simonelli Oscar. Both of my machines are red, so they look good together. That's the most important thing :-). The grind seems quite consistent and good for espresso. The ground coffee comes out of the grinder a bit lumpy, which the experts say can cause channeling, but I break up the lumps and most of the time it works fine. The motor seems really and the grinder turns slowly enough so it doesn't heat up the beans. The hopper holds about a half a pound of beans. I recommend the grinder with the above mentioned caveats.
Hi, don't know anything about the Grinta grinder, but I have a Rocket Espresso Giotto and until recently had it pair with a Baratza Vario grinder and that worked pretty well. I had some difficulty keeping the Vario dialed in after selecting a different grind (my sister-in-law likes french press); every time a different grind was selected I needed to recalibrate the machine. I recently upgraded to the Baratza Forte AP and I feel that I'm in much better control.
Yes this grinder will work just fine for any high end machine. It can sometimes however make a bit of a mess with the coffee grinds when it is filling. It is a good grinder and the smaller size is very nice:)
I've been eyeing the Rocket machines to replace an old fully automatic machine mainly because of reliability, longevity and most of all quality of pull. This machine will have to sit on the counter and be partially under the cupboards which means getting to the reservoir would be a challenge. It would entail muscling this bad boy forward once a week or so (or get plumbable model), does it swivel and/or how easy is it to slide on the counter. I do lift weights but not usually first thing in the AM!???
Best Answer:The feet of the machine have removable rubber rings, take them out to let the machine slide easy. Or do what I did remove the rear ones only, this leave the front stable when locking in the portafilter, while letting easily lift the front of the machine to slide on the back feet.
Hi Paul - We also have our machine on the counter under the cabinets. The machine does not swivel. We have granite countertops, and we put those plastic easy-glide pads under the feet, which makes it easier to slide in and out. I don't think we have to move it every week, though. Seems like the water supply lasts longer than that, but we only use ours in the morning, not later in the day.
It is a pretty heavy machine, but I think that you would find that putting it possibly on some sliders (like you would use to move furniture) might make it a bit easier to maneuver. I've heard of others doing this to be able to manipulate it easier, so I think this will help!
What are the "feet" dimensions? (for example, measured from back of back feet, to front of front feet, for example) I have a rather narrow 15.5" depth free-standing bar space and would like to know if the feet will fit and be stable. (totally ok with front/back overhang but would also be interested in the overhang measures -- from back of back feet to back of unit, and front of front feet to edge of drip tray if possible.) Are the dimensions the same for Evo V2?
A shopper on Jun 14, 2015
Best Answer:Width of feet is 9.25", depth of feet is 13.25".
Best Answer:It really depends on what you are ultimately looking for. In terms of espresso, they will all produce great quality shots. Both Giottos are heat exchangers while the R58 is a double boiler. The Rocket Giotto Evoluzione V2 line features the same upgraded rotary pump as the R58, eliminating back pressure from the boiler and making it plumbable. The rotary pump is also quieter than the vibratory pump. I think among the 3, you'll get a little more out of the Giotto Evo V2 or the R58. This video may help you decide: https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/videos-home/shopping-guides/rocket-r58-giotto-evoluzione
What is the difference between this model (Giotto Premium Plus V3) and the Rocket Espresso Giotto Evoluzione Espresso Machine - V2? The V3 seems to have the same features other than it is not plumbable, and a different look/design? I understand the V3 has the PID. Anything else? The V3 is quite a bit cheaper, so curious what causes the price difference to the V2. Thanks, Daniel
A shopper on Aug 25, 2014
Best Answer:Yes, the features that you mentioned are the main differences between the V2 and V3 Evoluzione and Premium Plus model Rockets. The Evo models are a higher price because they are plumbable, while the V3 includes a PID but is offered in a Premium Plus model with a tank only. The Evo models offer a rotary pump that is slightly quieter, while the Premium Plus models have a vibratory pump. The two units still operate the same way, so the potential for plumbing in the Evoluzione is really what causes the jump up in cost. Hope this clarifies!
I'm floating between the Premium Plus V3 with PID, or the Evolution with rotary pump, which do you think matters most? Rotary pump or PID? Why didn't rocket do the Evolution with PID, would have been a much easier choice! :)
Best Answer:I am not sure why Rocket hasn't made that version of their machines, unfortunately! Between the rotary and vibratory pumps, the noise that the two make is not significant and won't be noticeable unless you have the two machines side by side. The two pumps will also have the potential to last about the same period of time, and so this should not effect your decision either. The deciding factors might be if you think you want to plumb your machine, or if you think you need to have a PID. Maybe in the future Rocket will have a plumbable PID heat exchanger, but for the time being you would either need to choose a heat exchanger or to go with the R58. The R58 doesn't offer the flared sides of the Giotto machines, but is plumbable with a rotary pump and a PID option. Hope this helps!
Best Answer:No, the Premium Plus model of the Rocket Giotto uses a water tank only, and is not plumbable, nor can you connect drainage to the drip tray. For the ability to connect the machine to a water source and connect drainage to the drip tray, check out the Evoluzione models from Rocket.
Best Answer:The Evoluzione V2 machines are not eligible for a retrofit with a PID at this time, unfortunately. We haven't heard from Rocket if that is something that may be available in the future but will keep our site up to date with any information we may receive about that.
Best Answer:According to other websites, the pressurestat was indeed replaced by a PID on the Giotto Plus PID and Cellini Plus PID models. It makes sense, as you do not need two controllers to accomplish the same thing.
No, the PID allows you to alter the steam boiler temperature on this heat exchanger machine, but the Rocket Giotto still has a gauge on the front that will be affected by changes you make to the PID temperature. You are altering the steam boiler temperature and Rocket includes a conversion chart to allow you to convert your boiler temp to brew temp. Hope this helps clarify!
This machine was quite the upgrade for me as I'm coming from a Breville single boiler machine.
I'm using the Compak K3 with this machine and have really enjoyed both.
*However, the single most important piece of equipment in my opinion is the $20 scale to get the consistent dose and extractions. This machine as well as the Compak grinder will make terrible coffee far easier than they will make you good coffee. Weigh your grinds, and the extraction you're brewing.*
When this machine is given the time to heat up, and really get hot, it produces some great coffee. The build quality is excellent, you notice that right away as picking this thing up requires some strength.
Anytime I'm running water through the group, I always run it straight into a little cup. The drip tray will fill up extremely quick, and with how beautiful this machine looks, it also helps keep it looking clean.
I do enjoy the steaming power. It's quite the upgrade from any machine I've had. I do however not enjoy how fast the machine runs out of steaming power. (If you're brewing and steaming simultaneously) I regularly make a double shot latte and steam my small amount of milk at the same time, and by the time I've pulled the wand out and go to purge it, the steaming power is pretty weak.
Overall if you're a home barista looking to step your game up, this machine is a great purchase.
(Posted on 8/7/2015)
Love Love Love!!!Review by Jason
Normally I don't write reviews, at least positive ones anyways, you know how usually you feel compelled to write a review when something negative happens. However, I really feel I need to put in my 2 cents on this machine. I've only been brewing my own espresso for just under a year, born from tired of paying $5 dollars for a latte and figured a with a small investment I could do something comparable on my own.
I started with a Rancilio Silvia and Rocky grinder, at the time it was more than I wanted to spend but the entry level into something that could pull decent quality. After 10 months with the Silvia, I grew tired of having to wait to steam or pull shots with the single boiler. That brought me to the Giotto. Let's be honest, this is A LOT to spend on a coffee maker for residential use. After much research, I decided that the Giotto Premium Plus was indeed the next level and would afford me the ability to steam and pull shots at the same time. That's really the main reason I went ahead with the purchase.
What I wasn't prepared for was how beautiful it is and how amazing it looks in my kitchen. This thing is solid, pretty heavy, like a luxury car. My very first shot, I used the bottomless portafilter, VST 20g basket instead of the stock one, Bar Nine beans and the quality was as good as anything at the coffee shops from the LaMarzocco machines. I truly thought the only way I would get that level of taste was if I spent 15k on a professional machine. This is as good and a fraction of the cost. I look forward to many years of use on this machine.
Skip past the Silvia and go straight to Rocket, the quality from the Silvia is good, don't get me wrong, but it's not Coffee Shop good. If this is an appliance you plan on having in your life for decades, its worth it. (Posted on 7/17/2015)
Water Tank woes solved!Review by Honey
I absolutely love my Rocket. Have had it since mid-November and use it every day. Removing the water tank however, was a big challenge. Neither my husband nor I could easily remove it for cleaning. We both pulled from each end but our fingers kept slipping off without a nudge from the water tank. Water pumps proved useful, but still were not an acceptable solution.
Then came the revelation: We put pure silicon gel around the gasket. It is the only substance we know of that could withstand the high temperatures. Voila', since doing so, the water tank can now be removed and replaced with only one human power needed! Yes, silicon is expensive, but you can purchase a very small quantity. Hope others find this tip useful. (Posted on 2/23/2015)
It's not Rocket ScienceReview by Melanie
We moved and had to part with our reliable Nuovel Simonelle 15 year old pro machine. The Oscar, it's foray into theoconsumer market place seemed like a great replacement. Giving up a plumbed in machine for a reservoir is always a leap of faith. I had done extensive research and the Rocket had some more uptodate features but I wasn't sure. A long talk with the experts at Seattle which features both machines convinced me. We took the Rocket. It arrived, we plugged it in, started it up and it flooded. The coffee mavens at Seattle were appalled. The replacement was on its way before we delivered the defective one to Fedex. The machine is a relevation! Coffee is tastier,milk achieves a thickness we didn't know was possible and the people at Seattle are there to answer even our dumbest questions. (Posted on 8/18/2014)
nice espresso makeReview by Valerie
Bought mine about 10 years ago. It has had no problems and makes great espresso beverages. (Posted on 6/8/2014)
Rocket Espresso Giotto V3 - Magnificent!Review by Tomasi
I was really bummed when I burned up my trusty Rancilio Silvia, though I admit I'd been thinking about upgrading her for a while. I did some research and settled on Giotto... and I'm glad I did! Of course the price tag was daunting, but the machine is just extraordinary (though SCG DID have the best price I could find). I pumped about 6oz of beans through it dialing in my grind and tamp, and I'm pulling better shots than I ever did with poor deceased Silvia. HINT: it took me a while to figure out how to actually use the pump pressure gauge to help with that dialing in process. Don't forget it's there! Could have gotten it right much faster if I'd paid attention earlier.
Steaming is great too; that boiler is a beast. And because of the heat exchanger I can now do our morning combo of a double espresso for me and latte for my wife in about 1/4 the time.
And it looks great on my countertop! (Posted on 4/14/2014)
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