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- Saeco Aroma
- Starbucks Barista
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- Estro Profi
- Saeco Magic Cappuccino
- Saeco Gran Crema
- Saeco Via Veneto
- Saeco Classico
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Get that rich, velvety shot of espresso right out of your machine with the customized 53mm Bottomless Portafilter. Suitable for most Saeco or Starbucks Espresso Machines, you'll be able to watch the luscious crema pouring out of this portafilter in one fluid stream. This portafilter handle is compatible with the following espresso machines:
- Saeco Aroma
- Starbucks Barista
- Saeco Via Venezia
- Estro Profi
- Saeco Magic Cappuccino
- Saeco Gran Crema
- Saeco Via Veneto
- Saeco Classico
The 53mm Bottomless Portafilter does not include filter baskets. Use one of the filter baskets that came with your espresso machine.
| Width | 53mm |
|---|---|
| Weight (lbs.) | 1.0000 |
| Size | 53mm |
| Manufacturer | Seattle Coffee Gear |
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Thanks,
-Chris May 27, 2012
I was using a "cheap" electric grinder ($30) when I first got this portafilter, and as soon as I saw the channeling, I knew I needed a better grinder. That plus my shots were pulling too fast and I couldn't grind any finer with the grinder I had. Unfortunately, getting a grinder for espresso can cost almost as the Saeco.
I purchased a hand grinder ($40)
http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/hario-skeleton-skerton-coffee-mill?SID=o5eq3o6kku23m78sp3kh2ft3u6
I was able to stop the channeling and get the shot to time out 20 to 30 seconds. For the price, this is an excellent grinder. It has stops to adjust the grind and unfortunately you can't choose in-between the stops... unless you get a lock nut. You can get them at a hardware store for a quarter. You'll need the Nylon M8-1.25 and will need to adjust the grind with a wrench. But it gives me absolute control for adjusting the grind.
This only issue with the grinder is on less oily beans it becomes hard to grind. However, most beans will grind smoothly.
Still not able to pull a God shot though. I'm not sure it can be done with the Saeco. But I keep trying, and the shots have improved. Mar 9, 2013
Their are several variables at work - the espresso machine, the age and roast level of the coffee beans, the grinder and grind setting, and the tamp. Are you using a good burr grinder? This is important and with it you can try to dial in your shot by adjusting your grind more coarse or more fine. Additionally, you can try different tamping pressures.
I would like to give you a quick and easy answer but this is an art and it takes time to develop a good technique.
Have fun!
Mar 4, 2013
The spray I believe is caused by channeling. Flowing water searches for the fastest way to the end. The mist/jet of water you're seeing is a result of the brewing water finding the path of least resistance through the coffee.
Problems and solutions point to perfect dosing, perfect tamping, and a few other things like not banging the portafilter around and inserting it into the group head with ease.
These details in training are my favorite things about a bottomless PF, showing people just how hard it is to pull a perfect shot, and not one that brews unevenly. Another great thing is the ability to taste and associate good shot behavior with bad shot behavior.
Hope this helps Mar 4, 2013
If it's spraying around the outside of the portafiler:
- Make sure you've solidly secured your portafilter on the group head. I've noticed it happening when my seal between the group head and the puck isn't tight.
- Don't overfill the basket. When my pucks have been overly packed, I get runoff on the sides.
If it's spraying THROUGH the bottom of the filter:
- Make sure you've got an even and firm tamp going.
- Clean your group head. I was getting uneven pours -- until I bought a stainless steel brush and cleaned that sucker.
Hope this helps! Mar 4, 2013
Lastly, it could be uneven distribution of coffee grounds in the portafilter basket which leads to channelling and spraying. Mar 4, 2013
let us know if you have some success. Mar 4, 2013
Also make sure you are using at least 14 grams of coffee and are tamping and distributing the coffee evenly in the portafilter. Mar 4, 2013
This actually is the point of a bottomless as without it you wouldnt know you still had some room for improving your technique :) Mar 5, 2013
What grinder do you have? If it comes out really clumpy then you need to work on (1). Google WDT technique (Weiss Distribution Technique). Number (2): make sure you push down level
Hope that helps. -j Mar 4, 2013
now you are seeing what is hidden in the original PF.
you can try to grinder your coffee more fine.
you also can try increase the amount of coffee (try steps like 0.5gr)
and also you can try to improve the coffee distribution in the filter (using techniques like WDT or Nutation Tamping) Mar 4, 2013
Best,
Bill Dec 12, 2012
I am fairly certain that the answer to your question is: no. The bottomless portafilter for the saeco units has two tabs that lock it into place in the brewhead. The Krups unit has three tabs.
Hope this helps. May 13, 2013
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Caring for the Bottomless Portafilter for Saeco and Starbucks Espresso Machines
- Rinse out with warm water after every use.
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noticeably better espresso
Review by Mike -
Price Value Quality I have the the starbucks barista aka via vanecia and the vario preciso. I took the pressurizing thing out of the original portafilter. So, I was doing pretty decent already...
Compared to that, this bottomless one make noticeably better coffee. Is it way better? No, but it's noticeable. IMO worth the 60 bucks.(Posted on 4/14/13)
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Very Nice upgrade!
Review by SalSpresso -
Price Value Quality Nice portafilter, well made. Takes a little practice with the grind and tamping. Looks very cool seeing the espresso stream into the cup. Compared with the unpressurized two spout portatfilter, the bottomless one leaks a little water at the bottom of filter but that could be my machine. Otherwise a nice product.
(Posted on 12/9/12)
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Exposes Grind Quality
Review by Stephen -
Value Quality Price When I first used this portafilter I had coffee spurting out the sides. I found out this was called channelling caused by a large uneven grind. I purchased the Skeleton grinder:
http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/hario-skeleton-skerton-coffee-mill
and am now getting much better shots. This is a great tool to learn about making espresso. Search around on the web about using a bottomless or naked portafilter and you'll find ways to look at the shot to help make a better shot.
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/07/naked-portafilter/
I'm still tweaking the shot, but with this portafilter and the Skeleton grinder, I have the tools to improve the espresso.(Posted on 9/4/12)
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Great bottomless portafilter for a cup of good coffee
Review by Chris A -
Quality Price Value Glad that I saw this on you tube, it's worth buying even if I had to pay for expensive shipping to Australia
(Posted on 8/24/12)
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Excellent Product
Review by MrAlligam -
Price Value Quality I have had this since February 2012 and I am very happy with it. The build quality (chromed plated brass) is better than the portafilter that came with the machine in the first place. I have had to seat the portafilter more firmly to prevent water from leaking and it will take some time and patience to adjust to -- but the results have been exceptional.
(Posted on 7/21/12)
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A great upgrade
Review by Ray the Polak -
Quality Value Price A definite improvement over the pressurized portafilter.
Pros:
Easy To Clean, Easy To Use
Cons:
None(Posted on 5/28/12)
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Should Have Purchased A Long Time Ago
Review by Max -
Quality Value Price Previously I used a non-pressurized portafilter for quite some time, but this product really taught me how to make good espresso. Every mistake and achievement can be easily seen. Also it is of better quality then my previous portafilter. If you don't get the tamping correct, the espresso splatters or streams. When you hit it dead on, you know.
Pros:
Cons:
(Posted on 5/15/12)
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Best Upgrade For My Machine
Review by ATVer -
Quality Value Price I've had a regular non-pressurized portafilter for a while. Bought the bottomless because I wanted to see the extraction - for training purposes. Not only is the extraction beautiful to watch but now I know when I'm pulling an excellent shot and what to do when I'm dialing in a new coffee.
The only negative is that the machining process has left a fairly sharp edge on the underside and inside the portafilter. Suppose it doesn't matter much because there isn't much cleaning associated with it like a spouted portafilter. Just something to be aware of and why I gave 4 stars instead of 5.
Other than that, I am very pleased with it.
Pros:
Easy To Clean, Easy To Use
Cons:
Machining left sharp edge(Posted on 5/4/12)
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Love this portafilter
Review by Jan -
Quality Value Price I bought this portafilter to ues with the Saeco Via Venezia. The coffee is so much better with this portafilter. I tried the non-pressurizedand it was o k but the results with the bottomless are unbelievable. Well worth the money.
Pros:
Great Taste, Easy To Clean, Easy To Use
Cons:
(Posted on 4/3/12)
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Unbelievable taste
Review by craig -
Quality Value Price So much better than the pressurized portafilter that comes with the machine. I was tired of taking the portafilter apart to clean the gunk buildup. This bottomless is simple to use and once you find the right grind and tamping, it is picture perfect and tastes awesome. Wish I got one of these years ago.
Pros:
Easy To Use, Easy To Clean, Great Taste
Cons:
None(Posted on 3/19/12)
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Bottomless PF - Great upgrade
Review by TCook -
Quality Value Price I wanted to jump into the home espresso scene but didnt want to drop 1000.00 for a first attempt. I instead got a used Starbucks Barista for 60.00 but the rapporto filter always kind of left me feeling cheap and dirty :). I saw a youtube video of Kat and Gale with a bottomless so I found it on the site and coudlnt be happier. I have more control over my espresso, can play with my technique, see how the extraction is going, and watch the creme ooze out of my PFilter. Excellent upgrade.
Pros:
Good quality, Perfect fit, Easy To Clean, Easy To Use
Cons:
None(Posted on 3/19/12)
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Well built, works flawlessly
Review by schlazor -
Quality Value Price A few years ago I broke the handle off the original pressurized portafilter that came with my Starbucks/Saeco Barista. At that time I rigged up a terribly ghetto solution of a putty knife with a big hole in the middle attached to the old portafilter with all the pressurization stuff removed. It sort of worked, but not enough to keep me using the machine. I waited for this thing to get back in stock for ages and I'm very excited to be making espresso again.
Pros:
Easy To Use, Easy To Clean
Cons:
(Posted on 3/18/12)
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