Base for Rancilio Silvia and Grinder

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6911 216th Street SW,Suite A Lynnwood, Washington, 98036 Phone: 425-673-2706
10692 NE 8th ST Bellevue, Washington, 98004 Phone: 425-451-7292
26 NW 23rd PL Portland, Oregon, 97210 Phone: 503-224-1415

Width	19.0 inches
Depth	13.5 inches
Height	2.13 inches
Product Weight (lbs.)	9.0000
Material	Stainless Steel
Manufacturer	Rancilio

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Is the knockbox drawer actually robust enough to withstand constant hits from the portafilter? You've got to hit hard enough to get the puck out and that force is going to be transferred, plus leverage, to where the drawer inserts in the base. I like this part but this makes me nervous.

A shopper on Dec 7, 2015

Best Answer: Yes, it is tough enough but there are some issues I noticed with it. I just purchased one about a month ago.

1) The wood insert for knocking is very cheap. Needs to be replace with some sort of hard rubber or nicer wood.
2) The spent pucks build mold very fast in the drawer. You need to empty it very frequently.
3) It is a nice fabricated unit, but every edge and corner is very sharp. Nothing was deburred during the manufacturing process.
4) It is a shallow drawer, so you have to push the pucks towards the back once they come out.

To answer your question, yes. The pucks fly right out with a quick knock and it can handle it. Is it worth having and is it worth the money is the tough question. It is convenient to have, but I do not think it is worth the money. I happened to get mine for almost free with a purchase because of the amount of money I spent and the coupon I used, but if I had to spend the money again I would probably just get a nice dedicated knock box.

Reply · Report · Robert K on Dec 9, 2015

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I don't use it as a knock box. It's too loud and not convenient enough to clean up and doesn't have the solid feel of a "real" knock box. Since I don't use it for that, I can't speak to whether it would hold up over time to the hits of being used thay way. It's good quality stainless steel and not liable to bend easily, so it may well hold up. Some people use that drawer as a place to sweep stray grounds into. The wooden bar is removable though, so I've taken mine out to use the drawer for storage.

Reply · Report · Matthew A on Dec 10, 2015

The wooden bar is nearer to the front of the drawer, so it doesn't need to be pulled all the way out to knock the puck out, and thus the leverage isn't as much as you'd expect. I've found it to be perfectly solid. Overall, however, I found the actual capacity of the drawer to not be as big as I'd have liked, and when the drawer is shut unemptied the pucks stay moist and mold quickly.

Reply · Report · Matthew S on Dec 9, 2015

As a former restaurant owner, I can say that this base and knock box are as durable, solid and as professionally built as any commercial piece of brewing equipment I have ever worked with. Rest assure that you will not have to "baby" this piece. It will take a beating, and it looks amazing with the rest of my equipment. It's a necessary piece to have, and worth the money.

Reply · Report · cary n on Dec 10, 2015

I haven't noticed any damage to the drawer or the surface it sits on at all from portafilter impact. My one qualm is that grounds in the drawer mold after just a few days and the raw wood inside the drawer seems to get mold growing on it as well. Would prefer something other than wood to bang the filter on that wouldn't attract mold.

Reply · Report · Andrew R on Dec 9, 2015

Yes, the knockbox is sufficiently sturdy for use as such. However, I use it for storage (descaling pills, etc) as I found it inconvenient to use as a knockbox. I have a separate knock box that is larger than the drawer. It is also easier to take the freestanding knockbox into the garden to put the grounds on my azaleas.

Reply · Report · Marsha D F on Dec 10, 2015

The drawer sits less than 1/4" above the counter when closed, and the clearance between the drawer and the cabinet is generous, so when I slide the drawer open, the bottom of the drawer rests on my countertop, you can thrash away on the wooden bar all you want, the countertop takes the stress.

Reply · Report · Arthur T on Dec 9, 2015

No, this drawer is pretty much useless as a knock box. One for reason you already mentioned, and second it makes quite a noise when you hit it. I just took the wooden bar out and use it as extra storage.

Reply · Report · Aleksei P on Dec 9, 2015

To be blunt, no. After about 4 months of use, the metal bracket which held the wooden bar in place popped off. There didn't seem to be any issues with the drawer sliding though.

Reply · Report · A B on Dec 10, 2015

I've only had mine for a short time but it seems like it will hold up fine. I read many reviews before buying and most people said the quality of the build held up quite well.

Reply · Report · Deron R on Dec 10, 2015

It is pretty substantial and would take a lot of abuse, but I find it to be awkward to use as a knockbox. I took the wood dowel out and use it as extra storage.

Reply · Report · Randall B on Dec 10, 2015

TBH I don't use it. Just as easy to knock puck into trash. I tried it once and it was kinda messy. The drawers are great regardless.

Reply · Report · Shauna S on Dec 9, 2015

Don't use it for that. Makes too big a mess. Use the drawer for storage only. Have separate knockbox

Reply · Report · James R on Dec 10, 2015

I've never used the drawer as a nock box and wouldn't want to. I use a separate nock box.

Reply · Report · Dave G on Dec 10, 2015

Sorry, I haven't used the box as planned. I still use the kitchen plastic garbage can

Reply · Report · Ricardo L on Dec 10, 2015

Can you post a more detailed picture of what the durable hardwood knock bar looks like?

Kitlas on Feb 10, 2014

Best Answer: I will pass along your request to the marketing team so they can get additional photos of the bar in this Base for the Silvia and Grinder added to the site! The bar is a basic hardwood bar that measures about 1 inch square. The drawer itself is 7 1/4" x 9 1/4" and 1 7/8" deep. The bar slides in side brackets that are placed about 2 3/8" back from the front of the drawer. You can completely remove the drawers for cleaning and choose to place your knock box drawer on the left or right side. Hope this helps in the meantime! :)

Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Feb 11, 2014

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i like the see a demo of the knock draw in use. My wife thinks i would destroy the draw in no time. I usually have to knock the group pretty hard to get the coffee out. I use the seperate knock box with the rubber coated bar we bought from you. thanks

Reply (1) · Report · Frank Z on Mar 15, 2014

Will this tray fit my Nuova Simonelli Oscar and matching grinder? I am looking for a tray and drawer / storage system to help organize the coffee routine? If you have any suggestions...
Bob

Bob H on May 1, 2016

Best Answer: If it fits, it would be a very close fit. The base is advertised as 19x13x3 inches, but the top of the base is actually 12 1/2" deep, the handles of the drawers make up the extra 1/2 inch. From what I can tell online, the Oscar is 15" deep, but the rubber feet are inset somewhat. The front and back feet would each need to be at least 1 1/2" in for it to fit, so a careful measurement is needed; and you'd be right on the edge. Width-wise it should hold the Oscar and grinder. The base is made of heavy gauge stainless steel so should be able to hold both a heavy machine and grinder. The drawers are constructed so they can hold wet grounds and won't leak, a feature I've appreciated since my system is not next to a sink. Only downside is the edges of the heavy-gauge steel is unfinished and feels quite sharp. So caution is advised when opening drawers. I'm pleased with my setup, but your machine is deeper than the Silvia.

Reply · Report · Jay H on May 4, 2016

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Does the machine and the grinder physically attach to the base, or just sit on it? Can I use any grinder (eg Eureka Mignon) or only the Rocky?

N L on Nov 2, 2015

Best Answer: They just sit on it. If it fits, you can use your grinder on it.

Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Nov 4, 2015

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Does this base have rubber feet or a rubber pad on the bottom to protect the counter top?

A shopper on Apr 21, 2015

Best Answer: It doesn't. It works well, but it is very basic, no padding on the bottom. I would recommend getting a silicone matt or something similar to put underneath it for protecting your counter top.

Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on May 7, 2015

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Does this vase hold both the espresso machine and grinder? Is the actual model number Rancilio HSD-BS50 Base for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine/Rocky Grinder?

If so when do you expect it back in stock?

Thanks

A shopper on Apr 13, 2015

Best Answer: Yes, this will hold both the Silvia and the Rocky. We should have some back in stock in about a month. Be sure to click on the link that says "sign up to get notified when this item is back in stock" and we'll send you an e-mail when we get more in.

Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 18, 2015

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Will a Silvia and baraza preciso grinder fit on the base?

A shopper on Mar 30, 2014

Best Answer: Yes, a Silvia machine and a Baratza Preciso Grinder will both fit on this Base for Rancilio Silvia and Grinder.

Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Mar 31, 2014

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Will the portafilter easily fit in the drawer?

Kitlas on Feb 21, 2014

Best Answer: A bottomless portafilter will fit into the drawer, but no, the regular double spout portafilter is too tall to fit into this Base for Rancilio Silvia and Grinder.

Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Feb 21, 2014

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Nice baseReview by Dave

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The base keeps the inevitable drips off of the counter and the drawers are a convenient place to keep brushes and some cleaning stuff at hand and out of sight. I would have rated it higher on Quality if the manufacturer had taken a couple of extra minutes to round off some too sharp edges on drawers. They aren't sharp enough to cut your hands, but they are uncomfortably sharp. A couple of minutes with a Dremel tool and a light touch will solve the problem. (Posted on 2/5/2014)

Provides professional barrista feelReview by toad

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Produces a packaged espresso center look with machine/grinder. Makes frothing easier. Well worth the expense.

Pros:
Easy To Use, Commercial Grade, Easy To Clean

Cons:
None (Posted on 5/8/2012)

GoodReview by Coffee Cliff

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Very good for organizing everything in one spot. I use the knockbox drawer and other drawer for my spoons, brushes etc.

Pros:
Easy To Use, Easy To Clean

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(Posted on 3/16/2012)

Silvia has established her claimReview by Sam

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Sitting in her rightful place,Really I just like having drawers to put thing in and to have them close by as I need them. This sturdy base that matches/made for Silvia helps me do this.If you don't have room under a cabinet,then maybe you could find a better place for Silvia so that she could have her base unit.

Pros:
Easy To Use, Commercial Grade, Easy To Clean

Cons:
(Posted on 12/30/2011)

Nice baseReview by Erick

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This base completes my Rancilio set. Now the Silvia and Rocky have a proper place to sit together. I like the size of the drawers. I keep all my accessories in there, like my scale, cleaning brush, etc...

Pros:
Easy To Use, Easy To Clean, Commercial Grade

Cons:
(Posted on 8/16/2011)

Perfect finale for an amazing pair.Review by HaleHiker

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Almost didn't purchase this, concerned that loaded up, it wouldn't fit under kitchen cabinets. Very glad we did (and it does), as it is a great unifying base for Sylvia and Rocky, just deep enough to hold essential tools, and creates a visually pleasing 'coffee center' in a small space. Well-made. We don't use the knock-box, however, but a wastecan right underneath.

Pros:
Easy To Use, Utilitarian, Commercial Grade, Easy To Clean, Good height for under-cab

Cons:
(Posted on 6/17/2010)

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What it Covers:	Rancilio espresso machines and grinders
Length:	- Home Use: 1 year parts and labor (Silvia and Rocky) - Commercial Equipment: 1 year parts, 3 months labor
Who Supports the Warranty:	Seattle Coffee Gear
Warranty Contact Information:	866-372-4734 or email us at warranty@seattlecoffeegear.com
Notes:	The Silvia and Rocky are eligible for SCG's standard warranty support and service. Learn more about what's covered. All other espresso machines and grinders are covered by a limited, commercial-class warranty. For more information on service and support, please discuss with your commercial sales rep.
Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty?	Yes (Silvia only).
Can SCG Repair?	Yes. Read more about our out-of-warranty repair services.

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