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Baratza Vario Burr Grinder with Metal PortaHolder
Overview
This commercial-grade Baratza Vario Burr Grinder with metal portaholder and LED display features an advanced panel display, 54mm ceramic flat burrs, a throughput of 1.6-2.2 grams per second and an innovative macro/micro grind adjustment with 230 settings. The Vario and the Vario-W are virtually identical in design and capabilities: small footprint, macro/micro adjustment, 54mm ceramic burrs and a broad range of grinds.
Features and Functionality
- 54mm Ceramic Flat Burrs - These burrs stay sharper longer. Ceramic has a longer life than steel burrs and helps to keep the coffee cool by limiting the amount of heat transferred from the burrs to the grinds.
- Grind on Demand with Electronic Dosing - Grinds only the coffee required for each shot. Eliminates the risk of stale ground coffee common in mechanical dosing units.
- Innovative Dual Cam Grind Adjustment - The right-hand lever lets you choose what type of grind. The lever on the left lets you fine tune the grind within the range selected. More than 230 grind settings available.
- Programming - Features three user-programmable grind weight buttons.
- Super Quiet - Powerful motor turns slowly resulting in cool, quiet operation and permits extended grinding time. The circuitry is equipped with an automatic reset thermal switch.
- Metal PortaHolder - Universally adjustable brackets for any portafilter. Allows for hands-free operation.
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| How Does it Compare? | The Vario Burr Grinder uses a timing system to grind while the Vario W Burr Grinder weighs the ground coffee while grinding, then stops automatically when it reaches your desired weight. |
| Tips and Tricks | Remember to have the grinder running when you change the grind settings. |
| Suitable Applications | Coffee Press, Drip Coffee, Espresso, Fine Drip / Pour Over |
| Minimum Time to Grind Double Shot | 11 seconds |
Specs
| Model Number | 886 |
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| Manufacturer | Baratza |
| Width | 5.25 inches |
| Depth | 7.00 inches |
| Height | 14.25 inches |
| Product Weight (lbs.) | 9.0000 |
| Watts | 180W |
| Volts | 110V |
| Case Material | Plastic |
| Bean Hopper Capacity | 8 ounces |
| Dosing Options | Programmable Dosing Functionality |
| Adjustment Configuration | Stepped - Macro and Micro Settings |
| Grinder Style | Burr - Flat Ceramic |
| Burr Diameter | 54mm |
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would this grinder be a realistic candidate for a rocket espresso machine? If so, how long would it last? I don't really have the cash for the mazzer and it seems as if this is my best bet. I just want to confirm with someone first.
Best Answer: Honestly, if you're going to spend good money on a Rocket machine, it would make sense to get a grinder that can dial in with absolute precision. That being said, the Vario is a good grinder and will definitely get you to an espresso range. Baratza is a great brand and should last you for several years provided you maintain it well. Typically we recommend a better grinder over machine, but I will note that the Rocket is a finely tuned machine that does allow for some user error and you will certainly get good shots on it using a Vario grinder.
Does the $479 Vario have the same closeable bean hopper as the Vario-W?
Best Answer: No, it does not come with the bean hopper with a gate valve to shut off the beans from falling in, should you want to remove the bean hopper or change out your beans. However, we do carry the bean hopper separately that has the gate at the bottom, and fits into the Vario properly, should you want to purchase that as an accessory. You can find that here:
https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/baratza-shutoff-hopper-with-lid
https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/baratza-shutoff-hopper-with-lid
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· Stephanie AStaff on Jan 14, 2015
Does the grinder come with a brush for cleaning?
This is one of those "apples vs oranges" question: I currently own the Breville SmartGrinder and the original Breville Double Boiler espresso machine (BES900XL?). Lately, it seems like the grinds I've been using do not seem to generate proper BAR pressure when pulling shots (I weigh grounds by the gram on separate electronic scale). I did install the new set of washers that are supposed to improve the grind results, i.e., finer grind), and, this seemed to work for some time. So, I'm wondering if its time to get a new grinder. I really like the Breville brand and I like the Smart Grinder as I was able to get espresso grinds and French Press grinds. So, I'm wondering if this Baratza Vario is a better choice for my next grinder versus upgrading to the newer Breville Smart Grinder Pro. I've seen different reviews and most of them say that the Vario with the ceramic burrs are great for espresso grinds, but, not ideal for French Press grinds. Baratza has a set of steel burrs that are great for filter, pour over and French Press but not ideal (or even applicable) for espresso. Maybe I'm not being realistic in wanting one grinder that is great for espresso AND French Press type coffee? I'd appreciate any advice here. Or, maybe I need to clean my current machine? Thanks!
Baratza Vario Burr Grinder with Metal PortaHolder
Best Answer: I also own a Breville SmartGrinder and a Breville espresso machine, and like you, I need my grinder to work well for both espresso and French press grounds. I've had my machines for about 2 years and so far have had no difficulty using the SmartGrinder for both. So far, I haven't replaced any parts or provided any special maintenance apart from the routine general cleaning. In my opinion, you can't beat the Breville grinders in terms of setting options and functions, without going way up in price (although it makes me a little crazy that there's no shut off button, you just have to wait for it to turn off on it's own!). Have you tried adjusting your grind setting to achieve correct bar pressure? As my grinder ages, I've found I have had to make slight adjustments to this grind setting--and the SmartGrinder does allow TINY adjustments. Currently, if my grind setting indicator on the front of the SmartGrinder display is on the "o" in "espresso" (and of course I fill and tamp the filter basket correctly), I'm getting a perfect "11 o-clock" bar pressure with my pressure gauge needle on the espresso machine--and a delicious shot of espresso! Hope this helps.
Relative to other grinders of similar price and quality does grinder make much noise?
Best Answer: I can't compare the noise to other grinders. This Baratza grinder was highly recommended by a friend & my own grinder research noise was not even a consideration. It's a fantastic grinder & I highly recommend it.
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· Katherine M on Sep 21, 2016
Reviews
- Best customer service ever!Review by SteveF
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Incredible service! When the art of customer service seems to be all but lost, these guys crush the CS game! I had an issue with one of my Baratza grinders (I have two of them). The team in Bellevue, near where I live got my issue resolved all in the same day. Big shout-out to Daniel who helped me! The Baratza folks are super friendly and accomidateing. Just a bunch of rad, chill, coffee lovin' folks. As I told them, I'm a life long Barazta customer because of their products, but more so because of their customer support and relations. (Posted on 9/28/2017)Price Quality Value - Owned for YearsReview by RichW
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I purchased my Baratza Vario Burr Grinder years ago. Within the first month, the electronic controls didn't work, so Seattle Coffee Gear immediately provided me a new replacement. Since that time, the grinder has been extremely reliable and I would highly recommend it. Also, I would highly recommend Seattle Coffee Gear. They are very professional.Price Quality Value
As a reminder, Baratza provides a hex key to further adjust to the grind. You rarely need to use it, but it's one more way to adjust your grind settings (in addition to the 230 grind settings). (Posted on 7/31/2017) - Great.Review by JHOOVER
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For what this grinder is, it performs great. My only use is for espresso. Very easy to dial in grind and control dose. 1-2 shots a day beginner. (Posted on 6/13/2017)Price Quality Value - This is grinder is awesome!Review by Hiram
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Having a good machine to brew your expresso is nice but in order to have a great espresso experience you need an excellent grinder. This Vario is a great/awesome grinder! The flavors I'm getting out of my coffee once I dial the grinder is just unbelievable... If you are buying a new equipment the grinder must be #1 don’t go cheap because you will never be able to get that perfect cup that we all want. The best $400+ dollar I spent. (Posted on 5/25/2017)Price Quality Value - Great Versatile GrinderReview by Edward
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I upgraded to this from the Baratza encore because I needed a grinder that would do better dialing in espresso shots. I first tried the Rocky, which was nice, but I brew a variety of coffee styles (drop, pour over), and it didn't seem as flexible.Price Quality Value
This seems like an expensive grinder for something that has plastic controls, but the critical parts are really heavy duty and well made. I find that I've been able to consistently get the right grind for espresso, while also bouncing back and forth to course grinds. It's a little less consistent on the coarse end of things, and it won't grind coarse enough for french press without recalibration, but those are minor issues.
overall, this is a thoughtfully designed, high quality and very versatile grinder that would do well in almost any home. High-volume espresso folks might want to look at a more dedicated grinder. (Posted on 5/21/2016) - Perfect pairing!Review by Deborah
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I bought this great little grinder to pair with the Breville Dual Boiler BES920, and I made the right choice! I'm able to carefully dial in just the right grind for whatever beans I'm using. I've had no issues with oily beans - this machine handles them with no problems. The first unit I ordered turned out to have a defect, which the SCG technician was able to confirm by phone after walking me through some tests, so she immediately sent out a replacement. The second unit has been absolutely perfect. Great service and a great grinder. (Posted on 1/12/2016)Price Quality Value - Great GrinderReview by Erik
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I called in to Seattle Coffee Gear to get a recommendation to replace my Rocky which didn't survive a move to a new apartment. They suggested the Vario, and after using it for a few days I couldn't be happier. I liked the Rocky, but grounds went everywhere and the portafilter holder didn't really work. The Vario is much easier and cleaner to use. The fine adjustment knob makes dialing in the grinder very easy, and there' virtually no mess due I assume to the chute design. The timer feature is very cool and make the overall grinding process much easier and repeatable than with the Rocky. Thanks! (Posted on 6/19/2015)Price Quality Value - Worth Every PennyReview by Baratza Vario
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Just upgraded from the Breville Smart Grinder. I thought I loved my Smart Grinder until I used this bad boy....You will not regret a nicer grinder. The coffee is not harsh, offers better flavors in general, and is a joy to drink. Don't skimp on the grinder. (Posted on 4/30/2015)Price Quality Value - A Really Good GrinderReview by Baratza Vario
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My Breville Smart Grinder broke less than two years into owning it. I thought it was a great grinder until I ordered the Baratza Vario. The Vario, although twice as expensive grinds coffee to a whole new level. The micro adjustments have allowed the nuances of the coffee beans to come through while eliminating the bitter harshness that the Breville grinder exhibited. Everyone says that the grinder makes the difference, and I admit I was skeptical. It turns out, it really makes a huge, huge impact. Don't skimp on the grinder! (Posted on 4/30/2015)Price Quality Value - InconsistentReview by Chris R.
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The Vario is a great grinder; higher end performance at a decent price. My example of this grinder is not great in that it doesn't keep calibration. After about 100g of throughput, the grind gets more coarse. Using the Vario with a Rocket Cellini, yesterday afternoon a 9.4 second grind put out 20g of coffee and the pull took about 30 sec. Today, 20g of coffee pulled in 20 sec. Pressure gauges read the same both times. I know beans age but not that much in less than 24 hours. Over time, this machine has been consistently inconsistent, this is just the first time I've noted it. If it would keep a setting it would be a 5 star grinder. (Posted on 4/19/2015)Price Quality Value - Excellent Grinder!Review by Lou#2
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Purchased the Vario along with a Rancilio Silvia and I am very happy. The Vario works great for espresso shots and for cappuccino's. Nice design and easy to keep clean.Price Quality Value
Also, nice to know that burrs are easily replaceable. The settings are easy to adjust and to fine tune. For my espresso, I am at 8.2 secs @ 3D for a double shot, produces 15 grams of ground coffee.
Lou: Just wanted to mention, when adjusting the coarseness, it is important to do it while the machine is running - especially when moving from coarse to fine. This will prevent grinds from jamming in between the ceramic burr plates as the adjustment is pressing the these plates together tighter. Maybe that's the reason you are experiencing issues.
Overall, great value and quality, highly recommended.
(Posted on 1/21/2015) - Quality grinder! Better off with steel burrs if you want a wider range thoughReview by A. Da Costa
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This is an excellent grinder for espresso and with the ceramic burrs you could probably even produce a grind that is fine enough for Turkish. If you're planning to use it for other methods that require coarser grinds, I'd highly recommend purchasing the steel burrs from Baratza's website (or stop by their headquarters if you're from the Seattle area, like I did).Price Quality Value
Here's the thing: the ceramic burrs produce a lot of fines. That means that if you're grinding for pour-over or French press, for example, there will be a lot of very small particles that will over-extract and leave that mud-like layer in your filter or even in your coffee if you're using metal filters. I thought the number of fines was unacceptable so I called Baratza and was surprised to find that they were a local company (Seattle area). I stopped by their headquarters and they convinced me to switch the burrs to the steel ones. It only cost me $20 because they took my ceramic ones back and the results were well worth the money. The steel burrs produce almost no fines. VERY consistent results throughout the whole range, from fine to coarse.
The cons of steel burrs (which in my case are not an issue at all):
1- They last for only half as long as ceramic burrs: 500 pounds instead of 1000 pounds of coffee. Who cares? It's going to take me years to go through that much coffee anyways. And for $40, I'll just get new burrs when they wear out.
2- They produce more heat. Not a lot more though. Even the ceramic ones heat up the coffee when you grind really fine in my experience.
3- They don't go as fine as the ceramic burrs. Not fine enough for Turkish. I don't drink Turkish anyways. It goes more than fine enough for espresso with my Rancilio Silvia so I'm happy. Needs calibration though, which is trivial to do. (Posted on 11/16/2014) - Stop hesitating and just buy it; you'll thank yourself! Review by Steve
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I have had this grinder for a couple of months now and can speak nothing but praise for it. I use it daily for french press in the morning and espresso in the afternoon and it allows me to easily switch between the two. It is a little fine for the french press but the grind is so consistent that it makes up for the lack. I talked to Baratza support before I purchased it and they were excellent and helped answer all my concerns. It is awesome for espresso taboot! The fine tune adjustments allow me to easily modify the particle size to get a perfect shot every time. I didn't have any of the problems Lou had; it worked fantastically for me right out of the box. (Posted on 11/12/2014)Price Quality Value - Versatile Grinder, Compact Footprint, Espresso Grind is GreatReview by Jerry
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Have used this grinder for two weeks exclusively for espresso with the workhorse Rancilio Silvia. For this review, I found a grind for the Technivorm, for which I typically use a Breville Conical Burr Grinder (450 XL for the past 5 years). Before the Vario, I used a Rocky for 16 years exclusively for the Silvia (V1).Price Quality Value
Appearance: Metal Portafilter is a great addition with almost all stainless up front. It is a sturdy and compact grinder - has a businesslike appearance, and when you try to pick it up, you know it's all business ... it has heft. The adjustable bars are plastic, and yes, you wish they were metal, but they do blend into the face. It works well.
Timer: I measure my dose of beans on a scale and place them into the grinder. I like my beans to remain in a dark, enclosed place until ready. I run a double shot in 9.8 seconds of grind time. So if I did not weigh the beans, I'm good. The 3 timers work great and coupled with the manual mode, gives you 4 options.
Espresso Grind: Once you get to the nitty-gritty between 2 and 3 on the right side, it's a matter of pulling shots and tasting to find what works for your bean and palate. I have found that 3.e. works well for my double dose. At the same time, I am still adjusting for taste.
I dose directly into the portafilter and gave it a slight shake at the midpoint to topple the mountain slightly. No clumping, no issues, everything powdery.
My guess is that after looking at the larger diameter, expensive grinders when compared with the smaller diameter of the Vario, that at this price point Baratza had no choice but to go with ceramics in order to keep the grind as cool as possible so as to maintain the highest quality of the resulting grind.
Either I am making better espresso with the Silvia in the last two weeks, or the Vario is doing its job. I have increased my espresso education -- and the espresso that I am now making with the Vario is smoother with more nuanced flavors.
Technivorm Grind: George Howell of (georgehowellcoffee.com) got me away from a fine grind on a drip brewer 5 years ago and to more of a medium grind that leans slightly to the fine side. On the Vario, I found this around 7W. That surprised me because it seems so course in terms of the Vario Scale. I place 310g of water with 21g of beans when brewing. This morning I used 7M with Ethiopian Beans and the coffee was slightly stronger than my usual - my thought is next time I try it at 7W.
Adjustability: I took the hint from the crew at SCG and made adjustments while the grinder was running -- between 4-3-2-1 you could easily hear the difference as the machine adjusted.
Bin: I used the bin for the first time and the electrostatic coating works -- coffee does not stick! Very nice. After all, who wants old grinds in your fresh coffee? No one.
Value: All grinders seem overpriced to me. But it seems as if you are getting the most bang from your buck with the Vario when compared to other grinders of similar quality.
Verdict: I like the accuracy and the grinding options. Sure, I'm not as sophisticated as others, nor have I used more exotic grinders, or the espresso grind for light roasts. But for ease of use and accuracy of grind, I do like the quality, compactness, appearance and cleanliness of the Vario over the Rocky.
I have enjoying better espresso now and the ability to detect more nuanced flavors. The Vario is worth the price premium to me. I like what it produces in the cup.
And after I get the new espresso machine next week, I will offer an update. (Posted on 11/8/2014) - Houston we have a problemReview by Lou
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This grinder has been a problem from day one. I got it last year for Christmas and it started clogging and stalling right away. I sent it back and got another and it did not get through 2 day. Support is very helpful so they sent me a third. I was afraid to use it for weeks. Then started grinding for drip and press. No issues. I decided to try the espresso grind. It choked, started clacking and finally stopped. I had to twice clean out the burrs and the chute. I've done this drill dozens of times with the other ones. This grinder can not do espresso without clogging up. I will have to get a different grinder for my espresso. (Posted on 11/3/2014)Price Quality Value
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Warranty Information
What it Covers: Grinders
Length: 1 Year
Who Supports the Warranty: Baratza
Warranty Contact Information: 877-701-2021
Notes: Baratza has excellent troubleshooting resources on their website. If you're experiencing an issue with your grinder, definitely look here first.
Eligible for SCG Extended Warranty? No
Can SCG Repair? Yes, read more about our repair services
Care and Maintenance
Clean burrs on a weekly to bi-weekly basis either with a cleaning brush or a burr grinder-specific cleaning product such as Grindz.
Remove and hand wash the bean hopper and lid with warm water and soap as needed.
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