Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

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  • – A Home Espresso Classic
  • – Single Boiler
  • – Stainless Steel Case
  • – Prosumer-quality Components
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Overview

Sturdy stainless steel casing, brass components throughout and an upgraded commercial-grade steam wand make the Rancilio Silvia Version M one of the most popular machines on the market. Simple, reliable and powerful, the Silvia espresso machine produces excellent espresso and silky microfoam milk for your lattes and cappuccinos. Add even more consistency to your Rancilio Silvia with the addition of a PID controller. Installed by our own Seattle Coffee Gear tech department before the machine goes out, these units enable you to control the temperature variance on this machine by as little as one degree.

The PID that is currently being installed on the Silvia w/ PID will display white numeric digits

Features and Functionality

  • Steaming/Hot Water - Featuring a commercial grade chrome-plated steam wand, the Rancilio Silvia quickly delivers plenty of steam for milk frothing and hot boiling water for your Americano or a cup of tea.
  • Brew Group - Inspired by Rancilio's professional espresso machines, this chrome-plated brass group ensures even heat and water distribution, resulting in highly consistent espresso extraction.
  • Pressure Release System - The commercial-grade pressure relief system utilizes a 3-way solenoid valve which makes for easier cleanup — either by reducing splatter from an inadvertently removed portafilter or by reducing post-brew drip, effecting a dried out coffee ground "puck."
  • 67 oz Water Tank - The water reservoir is removable, making for easy regular care. You can fill it while operating or by taking it out and filling it from the sink.
  • 15 BAR Heavy Duty Pump - A powerful water pump will effectively force water through your coffee grounds and extract full flavor.
  • 12 oz Brass Boiler and Three Thermostats - Brass evenly distributes heat, so this boiler will get up to temperature quickly and easily maintain it through multiple repetitive uses. The thermostats monitor the espresso, steam and boiler heat to ensure excellent espresso extraction without worrying about overheating.
  • Stainless Steel Construction - Brushed stainless steel case, rust resistant steel frame, stainless steel bolts, screws, heating element and only the finest fittings and tubing give this machine a sleek, industrial and functional design.
  • Plug n Play - Requiring no special plumbing or electrical outlets, you can easily plug the Silvia right in and it's ready to operate.
  • Portafilter and Filter Baskets - The Silvia comes with a commercial-grade, heavy-duty chrome plated brass portafilter and two stainless steel filter baskets (one for single shot, one for double shot) which measure 58mm in diameter.
  • Drip/Cup Tray and Warmer - The stainless steel drip pan and cup tray are easy to remove and clean. Plus, a warming surface on the top of the machine gives you a space to warm your cup before you pour your espresso, keeping it at the right temperature — an essential element of fine espresso.
Pros
  • Easy to Use - Users will find the Rancilio Silvia is simple to operate.
  • Good Price for Serious Machine - You can't go wrong with the price of this well-designed, high-end machine with great features and reliability.
  • Removable Heating Element - The stainless steel heating element is removable for quick and easy repairs.
Cons
  • Precise Grind Needed - To extract an ideal shot, you'll need to really get your grinds dialed-in. This machine benefits from a high-end grinder to get the most performance out of it.
  • No Programming - With the exception of the PID (optional install), there are no programming capabilities with the Rancilio Silvia.
How Does it Compare?

The Rancilio Silvia M features a newly insulated boiler that helps to offer more efficient power consumption over its predecessor.

Tips and Tricks

The Rancilio Silvia produces ideal shots, but it takes a little more work because of its specific grind requirement. Be prepared to dial in your grind every time you use a new bag of beans, and to use fresh beans for the best flavor.

Specs

Model Number Ran-Silvia VM
Manufacturer Rancilio
Width 9.5 inches
Depth 11.0 inches
Height 13.5 inches
Watts 1100W
Volts 120V
Programmability No
Case Material Stainless Steel
Boiler Material Brass
Cup Clearance 3.0 inches
Boiler Volume 12 oz
Reservoir Size 67 oz
Solenoid Valve Yes
Cup Warmer Yes
Portafilter Size 58mm
Available Portafilters Bottomless, Non-Pressurized
Warm Up: Brew Time 3 minutes and 27 seconds
Warm Up: Steam Time 2 minutes
Boiler Design Single Boiler
Water Sources Reservoir/Internal Tank
Auto Shut Off No
Auto On No
Pre-Infusion/Aroma Yes
Size 58mm
Material Stainless Steel

Q&A

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Does the PID that comes with this machine have the pre infuse functions?
A shopper on Oct 13, 2014
Best Answer: Yes, the Silvia we offer with an installed PID has both programmable pre infusion and shot length timing.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Oct 13, 2014
I've got a Silvia, bought it six or eight years ago from a vendor who shall remain nameless. It died after a bit over a year, and for lack of finding a place that would try to fix it, it sat in a closet for the next six or so years. (The selling vendor was, to be very polite, less than useful.) In a (failed) effort to fix it when it first died, I replaced the thermostats, but that obviously didn't work. My wife finally found -- through Rancillio -- a shop that would try to fix it, and they've said it needs a new boiler ($125), a bunch of new gaskets, two thermostats, and between two and three hours of labor. With a repair total of $408 facing me, I don't think it makes sense to put the money into the old Silvia. (Feel free to correct me on that.) So, going forward, does it make sense to buy a new Silvia, or should I look at another machine. The Silvia was terrific -- until it abruptly stopped doing anything at all at 13-15 months of use. (And it was bought new, not used.) Thanks for your advice and comments. Question mark?
Ed Rice on Dec 10, 2013
Best Answer: Hi Ed,
The folks at Seattle Coffee asked to reply to your question since we have had a Rancilio Silvia for about four years. The machine has been incredibly reliable, and makes an honest espresso every single time. We are actually are a little slow on the timing of the decalcifications, and it still works great nevertheless.. We complement it with a Nespresso Aeroccino frother to make the hot steamed milk, so maybe that takes the stress off the boiler and thermostats (it also save lots of time). We have had neighbors in two states coming to our house for the best machiattos in town. If you read the reviews, the Silvia is one of the most solid machines you can buy. Hope a new one works for you too.
Reply · Report · Miguel L on Dec 11, 2013
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Hi, where is the Rancilio Silvia v3 made?
A shopper on Jul 3, 2012
Best Answer: The Rancilio Silvia is made in Italy.
Reply · Report · Kaylie KStaff on Jul 6, 2012
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Do you really have to wait 45 minutes in the morning before you draw the first shot or is there a work-around?
John G on Nov 12, 2012
Best Answer: Actually yes more wait time is welcome. The wait time is mainly due to the thermal mass of brass this machine has. The boiler and group head is made of brass, and they get up to temp in around 30 minutes, the extra 15 is to get the brass portafilter and basket up to temp as well.

Why? to simply make use of the brass! Ask yourself why did they use brass, and why higher end machines use brass and top end use copper? why not Aluminum or stainless? Simply because brass retains heat more than other types of metal, and the best is copper (which most HX machines do use). which means when you pull a shot the temp of water running from boiler to grouphead to portafilter should remain consistent till it reaches the grounds and out of the portafilter. Temp stability is vital to ensure proper extraction, cause you might have water in the boiler at right temp but until it reaches the grounds, if not brass/copper temp might drop dramatically.

Wait time is to make sure all the parts are at the same temperature and so water will hit grounds and come out at the correct temp which will make your espresso taste far better.

45 minutes is alot , I know, but you have 2 work arounds.

First: Get a good electric DIGITAL timer. and set it 45 minutes prior your wake up time so when you wake up the machine is already up to temp

Second: You can cheat miss silvia, there is a very popular page for that, just google "CoffeeKid Cheating miss silvia"

I hope I've been informative.
Reply (1) · Report · Shehab I on Nov 20, 2012
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Should one have pid installed.?
Karen K on Apr 20, 2015
Best Answer: You can elect to have the PID installed if you would like to be able to control your temperature to give you a more precise shot of espresso. It is totally optional.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 24, 2015
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I'm looking to purchase the Silvia with PID, but I'm concerned about the PID attaching to the unit with double sided adhesive. It seems like the fluctuations in temperature of the machine would cause the adhesive to lose adhesion over time. Have issues been reported about this? Can anyone share their experience with me?

thank you,
James
James M on Jan 15, 2015
Best Answer: my wife bought the rancilio for me as a b day present. I did a ton of research because in all honesty it's an expensive purchase. I have had this machine for a 2yrs and I use it everyday sometimes 3 or more times a day. it looks exactly the same as day 1, and I'm glad I got it with the pid. no problems with it falling off, and I clean my machine daily. best part about the pid is you can customize it, you can put different Temps and run time. highly recommend it
Reply · Report · Darla G on Jan 20, 2015
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We're finally (after 6 years) having to replace our Solis Crema SL70 espresso machine. The features we loved were the pressurized filter basket and brass heater, solid construction. We were sold on that machine because of how forgiving it was with regard to differences in beans and did not require pinpoint precision grind, although we do have a very high quality coffee grinder with fine adjustments. After initial research this machine seems to come closest to what we like. Do others agree? Can it handle a bean that is a bit oily? (local coffee roaster). Thanks in advance.
A shopper on Nov 4, 2012
Best Answer: Hello,

First I must state that this is my first espresso machine. Before I bought "Miss Silvia" I spent a fair amount of time researching the subject. I am extremely happy with my choice. The three drawbacks were the lack of a gauge or view port on the water tank, the small drip pan, and that it was somewhat difficult to judge when the water had reached the proper temperature for a perfect shot. I ignored the tank problem and got a small pan to put under my espresso cup. I ordered a PID from an engineer who sells kits on eBay at the same time as I ordered the machine. This small device is a little processing chip, control switches and an accurate thermometer. It keeps the temperature to within one degree of its setting. It displays the temperature as numbers on an LCD so one knows when to start the process. I installed the PID on the machine after first testing the machine one time, as the warranty might have been voided by the modification. (That first cup from the machine, with no PID, was great.) The PID installation was well described and documented with pictures and was easy to do.

As to a problem with oily beans, the Silvia machine itself works equally well with any roast. The Rancillo grinder, which I also use, does have a problem with very oily (dark roast) beans. Most espresso drinkers prefer the more caffeinated lighter roasts and I usually fall in this group. I sometimes use dark roasts and two or three times - out of many hundreds - I have had to empty the grinder and return the beans to fix the jam.

Both the machine and the PID have worked flawlessly for three years. I am very pleased with both and highly recommend the Silvia and the use of a PID.
Reply · Report · Bruce R on Nov 6, 2012
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I bought the Silvia several months ago and am generally happy with it, using the single filter basket. I am having a lot of trouble with the double basket. The shot pours out very quickly and is very watery, no crema at all. The same beans, the same grind using the single basket gives me a very good shot.
What am I doing wrong? Anyone run into the same issue?
Shanti S on Nov 9, 2013
Best Answer: Hi Shanti,

I seem to recall having this problem early on with my Rancilio. I changed the grind to a finer setting and started tamping the grounds as I filled the portafilter. So I fill the portafilter halfway then tamp very firmly, fill some more and tamp again. Make sure you have grinds higher than the indented line around the interior of the portafilter basket. I don't know what type of bean grinder you have (I use a Baratza Preciso) but the grinder does make a difference as well. Hope this helps.
Reply (1) · Report · Diana A on Nov 10, 2013
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On occasion, I would want the Silvia to just heat water for french press coffee or tea. 1. How long does it take to get up to temp to dispense hot water? 2. How much hot water can it dispense at one time? 3. Will it damage the machine to pour a 2-liter pot of hot water?
runsw/scissors on Jan 7, 2016
Best Answer: There are far more efficient ways to heat 2 liters of water than using your expresso machine. Plus I am pretty sure that the act of dispensing so much hot water would soon empty the boiler and you would not even be able to dispense even a liter before having to start all over again. Buy yourself an electric water heater, a tea pot, or use the stove.
Reply · Report · Bruce B on Feb 5, 2016
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I have a Krups which I love but after a year or so always have leaks this time from attachment point to frother. My it confusion with Silvia is this fear of not knowing how much water is in the boiler which is not a cover with my Krups. I am afraid of burning out the boiler by failing to have enough water in it. Typically we only make two shots at a time. Is this a real concern?
A shopper on Nov 10, 2013
Best Answer: Hi Erica,
Sorry for the confusion!
In order to prime the Silvia after steaming, you would turn Off the steam switch, the bottom switch of the three on the left, and turn On the middle switch, the water switch which engages the pump. You will do this while simultaneously turning the steam knob into the "open" position. This allows you to deplete steam from the boiler, and refill the boiler with water from the tank. No, I am not intending to use the words "boiler" and "tank" interchangeably, and misspoke in my first note to you. Correct wording for that sentence would be "prime the machine after steaming to refill the boiler." Sorry!

Regarding a grinder, the reason you absolutely need your own grinder for either the Silvia or the Crossland CC1, is that both of these machines require a specific grind that is different for every machine and every bean. If you go to your local coffee shop or a grocery store and have them grind beans for you, unfortunately their setting will likely be different from yours, as there is not a universal espresso grind setting. It is also the case that beans age quickly, and grinding them will allow them to age even quicker, as there is that much more surface area exposed to the air. If you try to use preground coffee in these machines, you will not find good flavor or crema and be very disappointed with the results. I would also suggest watching the video on the Silvia page for an overview of the machine and what all the buttons do for more information. I hope this helps clarify further, but please give us a call if you have any other questions! 866-372-4734
Reply (1) · Report · Teri KStaff on Nov 15, 2013
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Where is the Silvia Espresso machine manufactured?
squaint on Mar 2, 2014
Best Answer: The Rancilio Silvia is made in Italy.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Mar 3, 2014
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the user manual would seem to indicate that this is a dual-voltage machine (i.e. can be switched to run on either 110/220v by the user), although many reviews seem to indicate otherwise. Can anyone let me know for sure? I'm in Europe for a few years, but will be moving back to the US, and would like to invest in a machine I can have for the long haul.
A shopper on Dec 22, 2011
Best Answer: This machine is either 220v (European version) or 110v (US version). Only the 110v version is sold in the US. The machine is not convertible between voltages.
Reply · Report · SCG SStaff on Dec 30, 2011
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Is the Silvia 3 good at just making coffee? I don't always want expresso.
mario s on Jan 24, 2015
Best Answer: If you want more than a cup of coffee, then I would avoid using the Rancilio and stick with a percolator. If you just want a single cup, then it works great at making a quick Americano (which is effectivly a cup of coffee).
Reply · Report · Shari G on Jan 29, 2015
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I live at high altitude -- 6300 feet. Water boils at 200 degrees here. Will Silvia be able to get the water hot enough to pull a good shot?
A shopper on Jun 2, 2013
Best Answer: I believe it shouldn't be a problem because the boiler is a closed system (unlike a pan of water) although you might have to do a little adjusting of how you do the cooling flush...you can look for discussion threads on the internet using search terms "high" "altitude" "espresso" "maker". One suggestion might be to go to a local cafe and ask if they make any adjustments to pulling shots in their machine and follow suit.
Reply · Report · Martin F on Jun 4, 2013
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How much milk can you froth at a time? Without hurting the machine. I'm looking at filling a 16 oz glass with a double shot and filling the rest with HOT frothed milk.
Troy B on Mar 27, 2013
Best Answer: Actually in my morning latte with the Silvia I pour about 8 oz of 1% in a 16 oz mug and steam it in the mug (probably not the advised method but it works for me), then I hit the top espresso switch (without the portifilter on) to let the water run through until the light comes on. Turn off the switch, wait 30 seconds, insert the portafilter and pull a double shot. Then add it to the steamed milk. I only make one latte per day but I assure you that it works really well with about 8 oz. of cold milk. It expands to the top of the mug.

FYI: I use organic 1% milk from Costco. It tastes so much richer and steams better than non organic from the grocery store.
Reply · Report · Laura B on Mar 27, 2013
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when i try to pull a shot from my rancilio silvia the only thing i can get is steam? ive followed the instructions, but it does not seem to be running water through.
alex a on Feb 5, 2016
Best Answer: There are 4 switches
The power switch (on the right) heats the water in the boiler to brewing temp. around 185.
On the left, the top switch operates the pump to the portafilter (pulling a shot)
The middle button activates the pump to the wand to pull hot water (for tea)
The third heats the water to above boiling 265-285 degrees. (steam)
Steam will come out if the water in the boiler is above boiling. Even after you turn the third switch off, the water in the boiler may be above boiling.
Try these things.
Starting cold. Turn on the power (right switch). Wait until the temp light turns off. (The square one). Turn on the top switch (pump to the portafilter), hot water should come out of the portafilter. If you do not turn on the third switch, you should not get steam. If you do, the unit is defective.
Starting hot. If you have had the third switch on, even if you turn it off, the water in the boiler is still superheated to above boiling. You can bleed off the steam by turning on the first switch (pump) until hot water comes out of the portafilter. Steam will come out first. If you leave it on long enough the temp light will go back on. Again, with the third switch off, If the water in the boiler gets superheated, and steam comes out, the unit is defective.
One more note. To use the wand to steam milk, you turn on the third switch, wait until the temp light goes out and turn the knob on the wand to get steam. For hot water out of the wand the third switch is off. the second switch will operate the pump to push hot water out of the wand.
Hope this helps.
Reply · Report · Mark S on Feb 9, 2016
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can I leave the machine turn on for a couple hours?
jais f on Jul 25, 2016
Best Answer: Yes. Keep in mind that leaving the machine on with no water in the boiler will burn your boiler and will require a $200 replacement part. Keeping your machine on for extended periods of time when not in use will also put unnecessary wear and tear on your machine - gaskets would be needed to be replaced more frequently and it risks wearing out any switch controlling the boiler temp prematurely.
Reply · Report · Michael C on Jul 27, 2016
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Is there a manual coffee grinder that would work ok with the Rancilio Silvia?
Tim T on Dec 30, 2015
Best Answer: I wouldn't recommend a manual grinder for this system. Also I do not know of any.

The rancillio is a good coffee system. But you will need to dial in you grind

Good luck and enjoy
Reply · Report · Joe R on Feb 5, 2016
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If I order a Silvia with PID installed, am I limited to making shots based on time? I'd prefer to use the PID solely for temperature control and not use the timer function. Is this possible?
Andrew G on Oct 26, 2016
Best Answer: Yes, manual operation is easy using the middle toggle switch without using the PID . This is what I do to bleed the steam after making Latte. But if you use the PID you can also extend the shot time by toggling this switch. If you use the PID and want to stop a shot short of the programmed time you can push the button on the PID that started the shot.
Reply · Report · Mark S on Oct 30, 2016
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Lots of great info and questions here on here how to produce the best shot and drink. I am very close to buying the Silvia and a Baratza grinder. Does the machine come with directions on how to use? Do I truly need the PID? And it seems a need a timer, so when I wake up I don't have to wait 45 min.?
Jason S on Jul 5, 2016
Best Answer: Yes, it does come with instructions, and is very simple. It will take some practice to get the feel for it.

You don't NEED the PID, but I have one and find it totally worth the investment. Just knowing when it's up to temp is great, but also being able to program shot times is super helpful for multitasking on busy mornings.

Also, you can get by without waiting 45 min. I usually wake up, turn it on, then hop in the shower. But, if I forget, I just turn it on, and within 5-10 minutes it's up to temp. What happens if you don't wait longer is that the water gets to temp, but all the internal components down to the brew head and basket don't get to temp. So, by the time the water gets to the coffee, it's slightly cooler. To help with that (and again, this is only when I'm in a rush), I just run hot water through the brew head/basket to heat it up. I then wait another minute to get the water back up to temp and am good to go. Running that water through will heat the components from the boiler to the basket.

Hope this helps.

James
Reply · Report · James M on Jul 5, 2016
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How often do I need to replace my brew head screen and portafilter basket on my Silvia if I use it twice daily?
A shopper on Feb 8, 2016
Best Answer: The screen and basket do not wear out and do not need to be replaced if kept clean and free of residue and oils. You may choose to replace the screen if it gets too clogged over time to thoroughly clean. It is a good idea to have an extra screen on hand but not necessary. They are inexpensive and easy to order. We've had 2 Silvias, 10 years worth. Our older Silvia is making a friend very happy. Enjoy yours.
Reply · Report · Bob K on Feb 10, 2016
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Steaming/Hot water dispensing works the same with PID installed as it does without?
A shopper on Feb 25, 2017
Best Answer: Yes, it works just as if it was not installed at all
Reply · Report · Kevin C on Feb 27, 2017
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where is this product manufacture?
jais f on Jul 25, 2016
Best Answer: Its Italian made and assemble machine, whether some parts and I emphasize some parts may have been manufactured in another country . Its an Italian and manufacture machine.
Reply · Report · David S on Jul 29, 2016
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I bought the grinder - Compak Elite. Using an old espresso machine - Delonghi.
Will be buying the Silvia M through your website. Great videos by the way!
My querstion - Using the Compak Elite, how fine of a grind do I want to have for the Silvia M machine. Is there a magic number on the Compak Elite setting? Also, how much coffee grind goes into the puck? How do I know it is 7 or 9 grams. I do not understand the dosser on the compak elite. In addition, I am purchasing the PID from mecoffee.nl for the Silvia. HAve you utilized it. I have alot more questions, but will stick with these for now.
kash p on Jul 13, 2016
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Best Answer: I bought my PID on my Silvia and love it. Takes a LONG time to figure out just how fine to grind...I found if the water comes in too fast, grind finer....finally got it right, but every time I change coffee I have to refine! It is a learning curve! As for how much to fill, I use the double shot doser and fill not over the line, as if I fill too much it won't tighten down when fitting into Silvia. I watched the videos over and over, played around, poured out some terrible pulls and just took my time to adjust and modify.
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I purchased my Silvia V3 about 1.5 years ago. Over the past 6 months, I've noticed that the machine has required the finest grind on my Baratza virtuoso preciso grinder and still runs fast. I clean the grinder (take the burrs out) every 4-5 months. I use 16-18g of coffee, whichever fills just above the portafilter and tamper fairly hard in my opinion. I clean the machine every 2 months with Dezcal, and use coffee roasted locally (usually about 1-2 weeks old). Do you have any advice on what to do next?
Jeremy O on Jul 8, 2016
Best Answer: If I were guessing I would say the problem is with the grinder not the Silvia. I do not know when the burrs might need to be replaced. I would call or e-mail Baratza for suggestions. I found their customer service to be excellent. I upgraded to the Baratza Vario to go with my Silvia and find that to be an excellent pairing.
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what other machines should i compare to a sylvia?
A shopper on Jan 3, 2016
Best Answer: I did quite a bit of research and narrowed my selection to the Silvia w/PID and the Breville BES920. I watched most, if not all, of the comparison videos on Seattle Coffee Gear as well as a large number of videos on YouTube. From this research I determined that wanted a machine with accurate temperature monitoring. I also determined that I wanted a Double Boiler to help maintain brewing water temp. I have owned the BES920 for two years and have been extremely impressed. Note that a high quality burr grinder and the grind setting used have as big or even bigger influence on the quality of the brew as does the espresso machine. I use a Baratza Virtuoso Burr Espresso Grinder which is adequate for the task. I did need to disassemble the grinder to adjust the burr adjustments to get a finer grind. My next purchase will be a higher quality grinder. I hope this information helps.
Reply · Report · John S on Feb 5, 2016
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I just received my new Rancilio Silvia 3, being a novice, I read and watched videos and paid attention to the directions. This, my 2nd day brewing, the steam, purged ahead as advised, when steaming, stopped after about 10 seconds, any advice out there? thanks
terry b on Aug 3, 2013
Best Answer: My experience with the machine is from using it now for over a year.It seems best to purge the water out of the steam line first, then grind the coffee and pour your milk etc, as it wants time between purging the water from the line and then being used for making steam.
If you purge the line of water and ask for steam right away, you may not get any, or it will be at very low pressure. I hope that helps.

Neal
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What is a PID?
A shopper on Jun 11, 2017
Best Answer: I'm no electronic expert, but from a pragmatic view, I can tell you what a PID is. It's an electronic device that allows you to very concisely control the temperature of your brewing water and steam, as well as the time your pump runs. It also allows for a brief pre-soak of the grounds which helps give a more consistent brew.

Instead of turning on the controls manually and counting one-mississippi, two-mississippi, it lets you set the precise temperature of your brewing water, the length of time the basket is pre-soaked, and the length of time for brewing. When you combine that with a consistent weight of coffee and a consistent fineness of grind, you will get very close to the same brew every time.

It takes a while to figure out what degree of grind, amount, brewing temp and duration of soak and brew. But once you get the feel for your machine, it's a matter of grind and load the basket, and push a button.

I, being electronically impaired, had Seattle Coffeegear install the PID for me, and I love it!

Hope this helps!

Bob W
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Reply · Report · ROBERT W on Jun 13, 2017
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What are the maintenance requirements for the new Rancilio Silvia. I got one and want to make sure it last for a long time?
kash p on Aug 3, 2016
Best Answer: Hi, we bought ours a few months back and absolutely love it. We called customer service when we first got it to make sure we were doing everything right. You have to make sure you cool down after steaming (each time) by running the water. It helps to have the temperature gauge installed. We make sure the tank is always filled with water too. We still need to learn how to back flush which we plan on doing soon. The machine is great though. Good luck!
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? Hi, so i have recently acquired (i say recently its been 4 weeks) a Rancilio Silvia after my long but trusty Gaggia Cubika (i know its was a low-end model but it supported me for 10+ years after mastering it); Now the bad news, i am struggling with the Rancilio Silvia; i'm not barista but i know how to make a coffee.. My problems with the Silvia 2016 model to date:

i. Despite multiple brands of coffee, multiple grinds (using Gaggia MDF grinder), i constantly get weak coffee's when making a milk-based coffee such as a flat with or cappuccino etc; Crema is fine but they are weak
ii. I find the quantity of the filter basket small; i say this in light of using my Gaggia MDF grinder to distribute the coffee doser; there is little room for tolerance when attempting to fit the portafilter on to the machine - i would argue the point its just too small particularly the single filter.

So i will confess, i do NOT let the machine heat up for 30mins as some folks suggest; i know some folks will get pedantic on this BUT the machine shows its heated after 5 mins, as well as the fact the water temperature if fine. I also tend to pour coffee first then steam milk; i know this site as well as comments by others infer steaming should be done first but seriously what is the big difference here as it seems somewhat redundant approach. NOTE: I have tried leaving machine as well as heat milk first - it does little or no different to the end product; Its also worth noting i am able to pour a good crema on coffee's.. they are just weak. Last confession, i use a plastic tamper.

I have read on the www that i should avoid the single filter - can someone explain to me why as i don't understand the fact the Silvia doesn't support a single filter. I also have a real issue with the amount of coffee the filter holds re tolerance of over-filling tolerance (FYI: my grinder doser is around 6-8gms of coffee per serve (naturally double the size for a double)). Appreciate advice, brad
Carey F on May 24, 2016
Best Answer: Hi Brad,

I bought a Silvia from SCG a few years ago, and I think I have a few answers -- or maybe just opinions -- that I hope will be of use to you.

First, the single filter. The idea of a "single" basket originates from the Italian tradition of drinking very, very small espresso shots, a constraint that came from the limits of very early hand-pumped machines. Those original shots used about 7gr of coffee. These days almost nobody -- even in Italy -- actually tries to pull a single shot, if asked to make a "cafe solo" an Italian barista will usually serve up half of a double, then give the other half to the next guy.

The standard for modern espresso is actually the double shot, something from around 14-20 grams of coffee. I recommend you take out the Silvia's single basket, put it in a draw, and never touch it again. It is a historical curiosity only.

I'd also suggest letting the machine heat up for much longer -- the issue isn't the boiler temperature, but the big mass of metal parts that the water and coffee pass through between the boiler and your cup. If all that metal is cold, the water will be way below optimal temperature by the time it hits the portafilter, and your shot will be thin and sour. I really recommend warming it up. You can get it down to 15-20 minutes if you run a shots of water through it every few minutes while it's heating.

If those two suggestions don't help you, reply again? The Silvia can be a bit fiddly and take a while to get used to -- I know my shots were all over the map for the first month or two.
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Regarding temperature surfing: if one is NOT going to steam milk (just make espresso), is it necessary to get the boiler up to steam temperature first? I understand from the videos that then one should raise the temp again till the heating light goes out - then wait 30 seconds for temp to fall (to the correct brew temp) then brew.
It seems like (if one is not steaming milk) one could first raise the temp till the heating light goes out, then let it fall (to the correct brew temp, however much time that takes), then brew. Correct?
A shopper on Feb 15, 2016
Best Answer: Firstly, you shouldn't use the steam temperature for making espresso, it's far too hot (even after 30 seconds) and it will make very bitter coffee.
The key is to get the boiler to heat up under non-steam conditions and then brew the espresso within 30 secs of the light switching off - this is the optimum temperature.
A trick to getting the Rancilio Silva to reheat to optimum temperature quickly is to replace the hot water in the boiler with cold water from the tank. To do this, switch on the hot water switch, and then open the steam value to let out the hot water in the boiler. After a short while the boiler will be filled with cold water, thereby activating the boiler again, you can now switch off the steam valve and hot water button. Once the water has boiled and the boiler light has switched off, you have 30 seconds to brew the perfect shot of espresso.
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What all is included in the box?
BWINK2 on Aug 31, 2015
Best Answer: Everything you need to get started. You will have to figure out what you want to use to catch the coffee as it comes out. I found that a 100 ml beaker (from chemistry class) with a scrap if 1/2 inch plywood as a spacer works well, but any small container or cup will work. Get going with it and then decide what else you want to get or change. The PID option is a VERY nice addition and I consider it essential. You have to order it with the machine. Good Luck and Enjoy!
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I need to replace the group head of a 5 year old Rancilio Silvia (not just the gasket). Where can I find instructions and diagrams for this repair?
Patricia Cox L on Aug 1, 2013
Best Answer: I have no idea other than at Seattle Coffee Gear.I've had my Rancilio Silvia since Christmas 2011 and use it 5 or 6 times per week. Each time I try meticulously to clean it, and monthly I flush it out. So far I've had no problem whatsoever with it and have seen no wear on it. We're extremely please with it, especially its frothing capability.
Reply · Report · John W on Aug 7, 2013
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Thanks everyone for the quick answers! I've been reading reviews about silvia on Coffee Geek. There are several complaints about the bottom of the frame and the drip pan rusting. Have any of you had this problem?
Troy B on Mar 27, 2013
Best Answer: This is not something I've heard of happening with the Silvia (and we sell quite a few of these machines!), and so I wouldn't be concerned. The machine should not be sitting in water, and the drip tray does not have a super deep capacity, so it is also pretty unlikely that it would be filled for extended lengths of time with water, leading to rust.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Apr 1, 2013
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what is the difference between the Breville 860 and the Rancilio One-Group Semi-Automatic Silvia. i guess my question is which is a better coffee machine??
dee L on Nov 23, 2011
Best Answer: Hi, Dee. I chose the Sylvia after doing quite a bit of evaluation of the various machines. If I recall, I chose the Sylvia because it has a better and longer-lasting boiler (cast iron vs. steel), higher more accurate temp, less issues, and is a reputable brand, and I wanted the grinder separate from the machine for easier maintenance. Look into those differences to see if they are still valid. Kat's videos on youtube helped tremendously! I love my Sylvia.
Best of luck to you,
Linda
Reply · Report · Linda W on Nov 25, 2011
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Love my Silvia, but I seldom get much crema with my shots. I've gotten the grind to where it takes about 25 seconds to brew. Is it perhaps about the beans?
Fran G on Aug 24, 2017
Best Answer: I had the same issue when I got my Silvia a couple of years ago and found that it was the size of the grind that made the difference. With a fine powder, it gets a great cream every time. Fresh beans make a difference too, but it is mostly the particle size. Good luck.
Reply · Report · Reg F on Sep 5, 2017
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Will it work with the rancilio silvia when pouring shots?
John S on Mar 7, 2017
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Acaia Lunar Interactive Espresso Brewing Scale
Acaia Lunar Interactive Espresso Brewing Scale
Best Answer: Yep! Just make sure your demi cups or shot glasses are less than 2.5 inches tall.
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Mar 8, 2017
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Is this machine NSF certified?
Manuel P on Feb 27, 2017
Best Answer: Nope! The smallest NSF-rated machine is the Nuova Simonelli Oscar II. Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Feb 27, 2017
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Would this work for low level commercial use, I am thinking of getting one for a store I am opening which won't be primarily selling coffee but have a small coffee bar. Would this last if properly maintained for 50-70 shots a day?
Carl C on Jan 28, 2017
Best Answer: Unfortunately, the Rancilio Rocky is not NSF-rated for commercial use, and I definitely would not recommend it for that level of use. Instead, I'd recommend looking at the Nuova Simonelli Oscar II or Musica, both of which are about the same size, but with an NSF rating. Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Jan 29, 2017
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What is PID?
A shopper on Jan 3, 2017
Best Answer: The base Silvia has a single boiler with a pretty simple heat sensor. A thermosensor-equipped machine will turn on its heating element until it reads its set temperature, then turn off. This is mostly okay, but often creates temperature peaks (as the residual heat from the element raises the water above target) and troughs (the water must fall below target before activating the element). The PID controller preempts this 'wave function' by using pre-set heating intervals to maintain an even temperature. i.e. when a machine is nearing ideal temp, a PID controller will modulate, or click on and off, to slow temperature ramp to a near constant. This increased temperature consistency effectively means more consistent shot-to-shot temperatures. And since the Silvia is a single boiler, the PID helps to accurately return the boiler to brew temp after steaming, instead of the classic wide temperature range you get after purging.

I Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Jan 4, 2017
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Hi! I am considering purchasing this as my first Espresso machine. Can you please explain a few things? First- what is the PID for? Second, what is better- the portafilter tha comes with the machine or should I get a pressurized one if available? Third- will this machine make a Latte as good as the coffee shop in town? I asked them and they said the Silvia is OK but will not be nearly as good as what they make (They use their own organic beans- roasted in the office etc) I am a bit nervous about the possible purchase as I know next to nothing about espresso machines, but I do know I need a great grinder as well to get good results. Thanks!!
Jody N on Jan 3, 2017
Best Answer: Hey Jody!

To learn more about PID controllers, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtCuXNA8VI

In all honesty, I would not recommend the Silvia as a beginner machine. It has a reputation for great build quality and the potential to turn out some fantastic shots, but also happens to be quite demanding and difficult to use. You'll have to learn all about filling the boiler manually, purging steam from the boiler after frothing milk, and learning the 'sweet spot' for your machine's brew temperature, alongside the already difficult grind, tamp, and brew technique requisite for good espresso.

If you're looking for a machine that includes both pressurized and non-pressurized basket options, is easy to learn steam technique on, and has a PID, I'd recommend the Breville Infuser! https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/breville-infuser-espresso-machine

As for a grinder, my current favorite is the Eureka Atom: https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/eureka-atom-grinder but you'll also get great results from the Sette 270, or the Eureka Mignon!

Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Jan 4, 2017
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Is there a smaller sized grinder that will work with the Silvia? We are concerned about counter space.
Jane P on Nov 26, 2016
Best Answer: I would definitely recommend the Eureka Mignon if you want a quality grind but are worried about space: https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/eureka-mignon-burr-grinder

Hope this helps!
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I have a few questions: How does this machine compare to the Breville Duo Temp Pro? What is the difference between the Single Boiler in the Silva and the Thermocoil in the Duo Temp? Is one boiler better quality than the other?

Also, I might be wrong, but it seems like 54mm portafilter (on the Duo Temp) is not a common size? 58mm (Silva) seems more common. I also like that the Silva has a bottomless portafilter option. Can't seem to find a bottomless for the 54mm size.
Grace N on Oct 29, 2016
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Breville Duo-Temp Pro BES810 Espresso Machine
Breville Duo-Temp Pro BES810 Espresso Machine
Best Answer: The Silvia is definitely a more 'classic' machine. If you are stuck between the two it really comes down to your use case!

If you enjoy straight espresso, the Silvia will be a better choice with its full-sized portafilter and single boiler heat stability. However, if you are looking to make milk drinks often, the Silvia will suffer temperature inconsistency since you have to manually purge the boiler to drop temp between brewing and steaming.

But, if you are in search of a latte or cappuccino machine, or are sharing the machine with someone less than dedicated to espresso, you'll find that the Duo Temp is more convenient because it auto purges between brewing and steaming, and comes with pressurized (double wall) baskets to help get a decent espresso shot.

Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Nov 2, 2016
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Does the Rancilio Silvia M use a thermocoil?
A shopper on Aug 8, 2016
Best Answer: Nope! the Silvia brings the single boiler up to steam temp, meaning you'll need to purge the boiler back down to brew temp afterwards. Instead, I'd recommend the Crossland CC1 https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/crossland-coffee-cc1 which does combine a single boiler and a thermoblock for steaming.

Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Joshua SStaff on Aug 10, 2016
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Since the new Silvia M has insulation around the boiler, is it necessary to wait longer than 30 seconds (as recommended in the video) - after the heating light goes off - before pulling a shot? If so, about how long?
A shopper on Mar 13, 2016
Best Answer: You will need a good 10minutes to pull a shot, but since i usually cannot wait that long, i just run water through, and that does the trick
Reply · Report · Tarek M on Mar 29, 2016
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Will a Baratza Virtuoso (not a Preciso version) be adequate for dialing in a suitable grind with this machine?
Randall on Feb 28, 2016
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Baratza Virtuoso Coffee Grinder
Baratza Virtuoso Coffee Grinder
Best Answer: It will be suitable, you will be using the lowest 3 settings mostly. Every bean will be a bit different. Happy tamping! - Nick
Reply · Report · Nicolaus L on Mar 11, 2016
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Is the rancilio Silvia espresso machine a V3 or V4?
A shopper on Jan 23, 2016
Best Answer: It is the latest V3, which some sellers like to refer to as V4. Rancilio does not refer to it as a V4. It is still the V3 with updates
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Feb 3, 2016
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Is the machine still under warranty if you have the PID preinstalled?
A shopper on Dec 16, 2015
Best Answer: yes, it will still come with the year warranty as a brand new machine would. It is available for extended warranties as well.
Reply · Report · Samantha BStaff on Dec 20, 2015
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Does the option of Silvia w PID Installed mean PID is pre-installed and ready to use? Thanks. I dont really want to install PID myself.
A shopper on Nov 29, 2015
Best Answer: That is correct. If you get the Silvia with the PID version, it is already installed for you.
Reply · Report · Samantha BStaff on Nov 29, 2015
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If I don't order the PID installed does it come with the Silva?
A shopper on Nov 20, 2015
Best Answer: No, if you get the machine with out the PID installed it will not come with it, however, it can always be purchased separately at a later date, if you chose to add it on.
Reply · Report · Samantha BStaff on Nov 22, 2015
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Can I safely use an ese pod in the single shot basket without adapting the group head for ese pods?
Jim M on Oct 21, 2015
Best Answer: No.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Oct 23, 2015
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hello-where is the rancilio silvia V4 manufactured?
A shopper on Oct 17, 2015
Best Answer: Italy
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Oct 27, 2015
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Can the Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine be plumbed in to a water line?
Ian A on Aug 5, 2015
Best Answer: No
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Aug 6, 2015
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What kind of warranty is this machine coming with?
John D on Aug 1, 2015
Best Answer: Rancilio comes with a 1 year warranty. You can also purchase an additional 1 year or 2 year extended warranty.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Aug 3, 2015
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Rancilio Silvia 3 started shots coming too fast within the last 3 weeks. I am using the same grind level on my Baratza Precisio and now can't pull a decent shot. I have had both for almost a year and have done the descaling and cleaning as recommended. I have even tried using the finest level on my Baratza and still the same shot. Any ideas? Is it the grinder?
Randa T on Jul 23, 2015
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine
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Baratza Preciso Burr Grinder
Best Answer: The Silvia can prove to be quite temperamental. I would recommend going to the Baratza website and troubleshooting your Preciso. You may be able to recalibrate the burrs to go finer. http://www.baratza.com/troubleshooting/ just choose the Preciso for instructions on getting your grind finer!
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Aug 11, 2015
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Can Rancilio Silvia be used with a pressurized portafilter ? Does such a one exist ?
A shopper on Jul 6, 2015
Best Answer: If there were a pressurized portafilter for the Silvia I'm sure you could use one, but there is not a pressurized portafilter for this machine as that would be considered a downgrade. Most people choose to upgrade to non-pressurized portafilters as this provides more control through tamping.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Jul 31, 2015
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Any advice on what to do before leaving my Rancilio Silvia unused for 6 months? (It's not going to be moved or exposed to low/high temperatures, just not used for a while.) I've just descaled and cleaned. Should I empty the water tank too? Anything else? Thanks!
Zoë S on Jun 8, 2015
Best Answer: You definitely want to empty the water tank and drain the boiler. In fact, we have a video on what to do for storing your machine! I have linked it here for your convenience:
https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/videos-home/ask-the-experts/drain-the-boiler-single-boiler-edition
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Jul 17, 2015
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Question regarding your Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine Version 3

Your product description is indicating : "15 BAR Heavy Duty Pump: A powerful water pump will effectively force water through your coffee grounds and extract full flavor."

What is the part number of this heavy duty pump ? From several researches on internet, It seems that there are more than one pump model, a low quality one with a plastic piston (often causing leaking problems), one of a higher quality that thas a brass piston, and there may be others. I would appreciate to know which model of the pump corresponds to the 15 BAR Heavy Duty Pump. Thank you for your help.
B. M on Apr 25, 2015
Best Answer: Rancilio comes with the pump that has a nylon piston. We do carry the pump with the brass piston that you can purchase. Our internal part number for that pump is PRT143C0060. If you want the part number as indicated by Rancilio, you will need to contact Rancilio directly. They can be reached at 1-630-914-7900
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on May 29, 2015
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Is it possible to replace the portafilter with a bottomless portafilter and pay the difference?
A shopper on Apr 22, 2015
Best Answer: No, I'm sorry. You would need to purchase the bottomless portafilter separately.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 23, 2015
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Is Silvia good for small shop? What is recovery between shots? Is it one of two group head?
Karen K on Apr 20, 2015
Best Answer: No, the Silvia would not be recommended for a small shop unless you were only doing under 10 shots a day. Since this is a single boiler, if you are wanting to do milk based drinks you would have to wait a few minutes between each as the boiler would need to heat up to steam and then cool down to brew. This really is a home machine, not meant for use in a shop. This has one group head.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 24, 2015
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Is it two group ?
Karen K on Apr 20, 2015
Best Answer: No, this is one group.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 24, 2015
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What is the "PID" add on to this machine( Silvio Version 3)?
skip G on Apr 5, 2015
Best Answer: PID (Proportional Integral Derivative) Control is a popular upgrade to Silvia machines. Basically, a PID controller closely monitors and electronically regulates the water temperature at the brew group.
Reply · Report · Michele BStaff on Apr 10, 2015
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How many people would love it if Rancilio installed PIDs into every Silvia?
Jennifer B on Feb 25, 2015
Best Answer: I'm sure it would be quite popular, but some people do want the simplicity as the manufacturer designed it. The PID that Seattle Coffee Gear installs is an add-on accessory, which is also why there is an additional cost to it! :-)
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Mar 1, 2015
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Is this Sylvia model with PID the pre-infusion PID?
Steve P on Jan 30, 2015
Best Answer: Yes, the PIDs that we install on the Silvias do have pre-infusion built into the timing, and you can adjust the timing or length of time that it will do this step.
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Feb 2, 2015
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The boiler and group head is made of brass. Are the brass exposed or plated? If they're exposed, is it safe for consumers since they contain lead?
MaryD on Jan 2, 2015
Best Answer: The boiler does have a protective coating inside the boiler to protect the brass, and while the group head does not, Rancilio has done a lot of testing to ensure that the brass they use has less than .01% lead content. It is safe to use and brew with!
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Jan 7, 2015
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I was wondering did they change the boiler element inside the machine? Instead of copper there using something else? I am on the fence of buying this machine just because of the past of the element burn out.
rescueguy89 on Dec 19, 2014
Best Answer: Yes, the Silvia now uses a stainless steel heating element instead of copper, and while this reduces the risk for burning out your boiler, it doesn't eliminate it. You will still need to be sure to keep water in the tank, and to refill the boiler after every time that you steam. Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Dec 19, 2014
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silvia v4
what are the specific upgrades compare to this machine and is it available?
karen g on Dec 3, 2014
Best Answer: We carry essentially the "V4" version, however Rancilio does not list this item as a version 4. The most recent update from the original version 3, and the reason that others are calling it a version 4, is that the heating element inside the boiler is no longer copper and is now stainless steel. This is great for durability and is less likely to burn out the element from improper use and not refilling the boiler.

However, it is still very important to make sure that you refill your boiler after every time that you steam, and is especially important to prime your machine as soon as you turn it on when you first receive it after initial purchase.
Reply · Report · Stephanie AStaff on Dec 4, 2014
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Does the V3 come with a blind basket for backflushing in the box?
Zoë S on Nov 28, 2014
Best Answer: It doesn't have a blind basket, but rather a rubber gasket (universal fit) to be placed beneath the single basket, thereby creating a seal for backflushing.
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What is the clearance with the drip table out please?
A shopper on Aug 12, 2014
Best Answer: With the drip tray and drip tray grate completely removed from the Rancilio Silvia, you would have some leaking from the machine, as the drip tray catches a bit of water after all brewing shots from the pressure release valve. Located behind the backslash of the machine is a small tube that will direct a bit of water into the dray to create a drier puck. With the tray out completely, from the portafilter to the bottom of the machine the clearance is 4 5/8", and with the tray in place but the grate out, clearance is about 4 1/2". Keep in mind brewing with the cup in the tray, your cup may end up sitting in a small amount of water.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Aug 14, 2014
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I noticed that your Rancilio in the YouTube video had a PID modification done to it- do you have any suggestions or resources for doing that? I am mostly interested in having mine stay at a precise temp and ready for me in the morning.
Jay D on Aug 11, 2014
Best Answer: If you are purchasing the Silvia new, we offer the potential for a PID installed machine and you save a bit of money on both the PID and the install. If you already have a Silvia then the PID kit can be found at the first link below. Click on the Resources tab in order to see the Install, Start Up, and Operation guide for the PID. The last two links are a few videos of programing and overviews of the PID.

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/pid-retrofit-kit-for-rancilio-silvia-with-pre-infusion-white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mk7S-AcI2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wAQNH1lYs

While the PID offers stable temperature and programing for shot length and pre infusion, it does not offer a quicker heat up time, faster recovery after steaming, or an automatic timer to turn on the machine in the morning. Hope this info helps!
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Aug 12, 2014
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Hello,

I recently bought this machine with the PID installed, and I was very excited for the upgrade! I used to have a De'Longhi beginner machine...

Anyway, I kept reading how the Silvia needed a finer grind, and I have a Baratza Virtuoso. I have tried all settings from 4 up through 12. 10, 11 and 12 will produce a complete double (Most of the time), but under 10, the shot won't pull at all... I get less than half an ounce with an 8, and anything lower it won't do... I feel that I am tamping correctly, and if anything may be tamping a little light...

Is this a problem I can address? Could it have to do with the PID? any help would be greatly appreciated--

Thanks!
Nathan H on Aug 10, 2014
Best Answer: I am sorry that you're having trouble with dialing in your grind on that Silvia! If your beans are fresh, the grinder burrs are new, and/or the Virtuoso is calibrated fairly fine, then a grind setting of around 12 or so sounds pretty normal. Your grind will vary, but typically very fresh beans with a new grinder will not require as fine of a grind as older (potentially stale) beans and an older grinder with worn burrs. You should ideally be looking for two ounces of liquid to be extracted in between 20-30 seconds when tamped with 30 pounds of pressure, and focus on this end result rather than looking for a specific number grind setting on your Virtuoso. Once the shots are extracting in about the right timeframe, you can alter the PID programming for flavor if necessary. We go over the PID programming in the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mk7S-AcI2M

Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Aug 11, 2014
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I just purchased a new Silvia 3 with a PID. It is programmed to 22 seconds for Lb (brew time) but when it's set that long the shot comes out very watery (and big - it overflows the shot glass). So I moved it down to 20 sec for brew time and it still comes out water. I am tempted to drop it down to 18 seconds. Any thoughts on this. Just for some additional information - I am using a doserless Rocky grinder set at 7; a nice, heavy tamper and I am filling it up to the rim and tamping it down. I guess what I am trying to get is a smaller shot with a nice creama on it instead of watery thing I am getting now.

Any thoughts or ideas?
Anne A on Jun 16, 2014
Best Answer: If the 20-30 second timeframe for a double shot on your Rancilio Silvia is producing much more than two ounces of liquid, then you need increased resistance in the form of a finer grind, a firmer tamp, or perhaps even fresher beans than what you're currently using. Ideally your grind should be fine enough that the espresso takes longer to extract than 18 seconds for a two ounce double shot, but if the beans aren't very fresh you may also be getting a quicker pull. You might want to try different beans first before making any additional adjustments, but if the beans are fresh (within a few weeks to a month from the roast date) and your results are still quick shots, then the grind and/or tamp would also need to be adjusted.
Reply (1) · Report · Teri KStaff on Jun 16, 2014
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Hi,
Just baught the silvia and rockey. I have no problem pulling the double shots, filling the basket to the top and then taking off excess coffee and distributing it with my finger. When i do this with the single basket i cant lock the portafiller. Ive understood that its because when i tamp with the single basket the coffee doesnt go down as much because of the way the basket is made, so there isnt enough room for the portafiller to lock. Is there a way of eye balling the appropriate dosing of coffee for the single basket or do i absolutely need a scale.?Thanks
Bruce N on Apr 29, 2014
Best Answer: While the single and double baskets will require different amounts of coffee and you can eyeball if you'd like, keep in mind that a single basket will require a different grind size than the double basket on your Silvia. Both a single shot basket to yield 1 ounce and a double shot basket to yield 2 ounces should take 20-30 seconds for extraction, and so to slow things down for the single shot, you will need to move to a finer grind on your Rocky. We did a video experimenting with single shots that you may find helpful, and I have posted the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvf3QyXpZo4
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I am rewiring the kitchen and the electrician asked what the amperage is for the rancilio Silvia (a fab machine we have used in Australia for many years)--I am stumped by this question for the us model as haven't got it... yet. Can anyone tell me as it wasn't in the specs? Thanks!
A shopper on Mar 26, 2014
Best Answer: The Rancilio Silvia is a 1100W, 120V machine, and so that converts to drawing 9.17 amps. Hope this helps!
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Mar 27, 2014
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I have purchased a Rancilio Silvia with PID through your group to replace my Breville BES 840XL. (always have issue with the electrical buttons making a grounding noise) anyway. I also have a Breville Smart Grinder BCG800XL (latest generation, does not need to shim kit).

My question is the Breville Smart Grinder capable of providing the correct grind to work with my Rancilio? I am using Lavazza Super Crema beans. Is this grinder capable a grinding fine enough to work with Ms. Silvia?

Thanks
Sergio on Feb 7, 2014
Best Answer: Every machine and every grinder is a little different, and you may find that you can get proper extraction on the Silvia with your Breville grinder, so it is certainly worth giving it a try. My instinct is that you will need to be on one of the finest grind settings on your Smart Grinder for two ounces of liquid to be extracted in the 20-30 second timeframe, but you never know until you try! Happy brewing!
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Feb 7, 2014
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Hello,

Does the Rancilio Silvia with PID also control the timing of the brew?

Thank you,

John
John M on Feb 5, 2014
Best Answer: Yes, the Auber PID on the Silvia can be programmed with a temperature setting, pre infusion, and shot length.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Feb 6, 2014
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Am I correct in thinking that this machine does not come with a tamper?
A shopper on Feb 1, 2014
Best Answer: Correct, the Silvia doesn't come with a tamper in the Rancilio box. There is a very lightweight plastic tamper, but I would recommend upgrading to something heavier for better results.
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How many amps of electricity does it required? Is that requirement listed in the specs?
A shopper on Jan 13, 2014
Best Answer: The Silvia is a 1100 watt machine that runs on 120 volts, so this would equate to 9.167 amps.
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Jan 14, 2014
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I am interested in the use of pods and wanted to inquire as to whether the pod adapter for Rancilio Silvia makes a good espresso shot?
Van H on Dec 29, 2013
Best Answer: We did a video of the flavor from the Silvia with the ESE pod adapter and like it fine, but it is pretty spendy for the Silvia cost plus the additional money of the pod adapter. We found flavor with pods from an ESE pod capable machine that doesn't require a adaptor to be similar. I have included a few videos below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm9sNiLFALU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zam3rCJtJy4
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Dec 30, 2013
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What is the best tamper to buy for this machine?
AmyKnudson on Dec 18, 2013
Best Answer: Any 58mm would be a fine choice for the Rancilio Silvia. Tampers are generally purchased based on what handle looks and feels most comfortable to you, and the Rattleware tampers are a good reasonably priced option.

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/rattleware-ss-tamper-angular-handle-58mm
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Dec 18, 2013
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if I get the V3 with the PID option, will there be a user manual/document on how to use the PID?
A shopper on Oct 8, 2013
Best Answer: Yes, we do include some instructions regarding using that PID on the Silvia, and you can check out the programming in the video below as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wAQNH1lYs
Reply · Report · Teri KStaff on Oct 11, 2013
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How do I program the PID? No instructions came with the unit!
Craig K on Oct 4, 2013
Best Answer: Though that Auber PID on the Silvia comes preprogrammed, the easiest way to re-program it is to follow this video from Gail and Kat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wAQNH1lYs

Hope this helps!
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I bought my rancilio Silvia about two months ago. As a novice, I am not surprised that he quality of my drinks varies from good to not drinkable. Would a PID improve he consistency of my drinks? Is it it worth the price? If so, what PID do you recommend? Thanks! Josh
Josh Devon on Sep 15, 2013
Best Answer: Hi Josh,
I am sorry you're noticing such inconsistency from your Silvia! It is the case that the PID will eliminate the inconsistencies of temperature from your drinks and make brewing a bit more automatic, eliminating the need for temperature surfing. However drastic inconsistencies sometimes have to do with grinder and/or bean freshness and not machine. What kind of grinder do you have? It is the case that the Silvia requires a fine grind with consistently sized particles, and so the Baratza grinders or something like the Rancilio Rocky is needed for best results. If you already have a great grinder though and temperature is your issue, then the Auber PID is the PID we install and recommend for the Silvia. It can be found at the link below:

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/pid-retrofit-kit-for-rancilio-silvia-with-pre-infusion

Hope this helps!
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15-bar, what does it mean?

II assume the higher the number the greater the pressure?

18-bar is better?
Lance S on Sep 8, 2013
Best Answer: Higher pump pressure is not necessary, as it does not provide better flavor or superior results. For espresso applications, 9 bar pressure is intended, and Gail and Kat put together a video that explains pump pressure a bit more. It can be found here: http://blog.seattlecoffeegear.com/2009/09/23/under-pressure/
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I am a first time buyer of a rather expensive, prosumer type espresso machine with a fondness to espresso drinks. I am considering to buy the Silvia V3. I only have a budget to add either a PID kit or a grinder. I prefer to buy the PID kit only. My question is, can I buy coffee and have it sufficiently grinned to the recommended fineness by Rancilio from the store I purchase the coffee from like a starbucks or a market with reliable grinders?
A shopper on Apr 21, 2013
Best Answer: No, unfortunately a machine like the Silvia absolutely needs a good quality grinder at home, and will not produce good results using pre-ground. The reason is that there is not a universal "espresso grind," and so every grinder and espresso machine is a bit different, requiring a specific grind that is dialed in. If you try to use a grinder at your local coffee shop, your results will be inconsistent and the grounds will stale, so your shots will lack flavor and crema!

Check out the Baratza and Rocky grinders for options!
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Can the Rancilia Silvia V3 be purchase with a factory installed PID attachment ?
gatsbysmom on Jan 4, 2013
Best Answer: We do offer the Silvia with a PID installed, and it is available as a drop down item on the Silvia page. If you don't see it, unfortunately we are out of stock, but are always installing PIDs on machines, and more will be available soon. Give us a call if you have any questions! 866-372-4734
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Is the optional, installed PID the Auber one and do you supply the recommendations for its settings when the unit is shipped out? Also, how much longer would it take to ship the unit if I have you install the PID?
Kent C on Jul 7, 2012
Best Answer: Yes, we use the Auber brand PID for our Silvias and it does come with some preset settings when our techs install it. Generally we keep a supply of Silvias with the PID installed and ready to ship out, so you should have no additional wait time if you choose the PID.
Reply · Report · Kaylie KStaff on Jul 20, 2012
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what is the height between the drip tray and the bottom of the brew unit?

Namely, what size cup can fit in the unit to receive the shot?

Thanks.
A shopper on Feb 26, 2012
Best Answer: The room between the drip tray and the bottom of the brew unit comes in at ~4”. A variety of cups will fit in this space, including Bodum shot glasses and Bodum Bistro latte cups: http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/Bodum-s/131.htm
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Do you still have the limited edition one in stock? If so, are you able to do a package deal with the rocky doserless? Thanks
Tyler S on Feb 13, 2012
Best Answer: Unfortunately, we no longer have the limited edition Rancilio Silvia in stock.
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Hello,
I saw somewhere on one of the many videos that I needed to do ?what? to prevent boiler burn out? I am thinking of this machine but want to clarify this issue first, and I can't find when I saw that information.

Also a friend has this machine and he said it would be great if there was a more detailed user manual, like wait for the light to go out, purge steam wand etc. Is such an item available?
Paula E on Feb 4, 2012
Best Answer: You need to actively refill the boiler on this by steaming, temperature surfing, and then brewing shots. We have videos on this topic as well as several others specific to the Rancilio Silvia. We also have an article called 'How to Brew & Steam on the Rancilio Silvia' that is more detailed for use than the manufacturer's manual: http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/learn/coffee-101/how-to-guides/rancilio-silvia-steam-brew
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what is the additional cost of a PID option for a rancillo silva espresso machine?
jose l on Nov 27, 2011
Best Answer: You can select installation of a pid from a dropdown on the option selections for this machine. Current pricing is located there. This includes the PID and installation. Warranty covers the machine and PID.
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How long does it take to heat up properly?
A shopper on Sep 16, 2017
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What is the weight of the Silvia? I hate it when home machines slide around with n the counter when trying to use or clean them.
A shopper on Aug 27, 2017
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where is it made ?
A shopper on Aug 23, 2017
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Is the espresso in contact with any plastic parts when brewing?
A shopper on Aug 2, 2017
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Is the internal plumbing brass/copper/stainless or rubber type tubing?
David R on Aug 17, 2016
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Reviews

Get the PID With The SilviaReview by I Love Caffeine!
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I purchased this unit almost a year ago. It's been rock solid and very dependable. What I've just recently learned is the importance of consistent tamping. I was using a normal tamper in the past and have had inconsistent results. I recently got an espro calibrated tamper that made a world of difference in my case. Now I'm able to focus on the other variables to dial in a better shot. The PID also provides additional control that's well worth the cost. I'm very happy with this machine! (Posted on 8/14/2017)
14 years Review by Rog
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The Silvia has been a workhorse in our kitchen for 14 years. As like no a the grind is fine it produces a nice creama on top and a great shot. Steam and frothy easy to repair with a brass boiler and reset button. Can not beat it! (Posted on 4/20/2017)
Top quality machineReview by Adam
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Hi from the UK. I have had my Silvia for just over two years now. I have got to say it is a top quality espresso machine. I love the solid feel of the thing and the use of commercial parts on a domestic machine. She's a tank of an espresso machine which will last year after year. I bought mine after watching the reviews on Seattle Coffee Gear's YouTube channel. A big thumbs up from me. (Posted on 4/10/2017)
SILVIA v3Review by TOMTOM
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I used it an average of 1-2 a daily (6+ years, pays itself up)
I clean stainless screen monthly
Descale and back flush once a year.
All original parts still including rubber gasket (still soft and flexible)
Secret=I used reverse osmosis water only
This model is the most value for your money machine (if you're on the budget)
Invest in PID=worth it
Good size for small apartment/small kitchen
Without decent grinder/fresh roast beans is worthless
Cons: Little bit noisy compare to La Marzocco Linea Mini ($4495.00 $))) (Posted on 10/17/2016)
Owned for 6 years - no problemsReview by Roger
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I used it an average of once a day and pump water though to insure cool down.
I clean it, descale and back flush once a year.
All original parts still including rubber gasket (still soft and flexible)
There is nothing like a great Moca every morning. (Posted on 6/27/2016)
quality machine, excellent espressoReview by patrick
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I've had this machine for 6 months now and love it, get the PID version and you wont regret it !!
https://getjelly.wordpress.com/2016/06/12/rancilio-silvia-v4-with-pid-and-compak-k3-touch-review/